So.....How is the game selling?

Nirvana91 · 03-04-2003, 02:46 PM

I'm curious as to what OOTP5's sales numbers are. Especially in comparison with last year's release. I'll understand if the .400 team wants to keep these figures in-house, but I am certainly curious.

Main things to focus on:
I would bet, that due to the demise of STB, there were quite a few additional "first-week" purchases. However, I wonder how this will affect long run sales, when compared with last years OOTP4 + STB2k3.

How many purchases were made by people who actually ordered the CD? I wonder what the ratio of CD purchasers to downloaders is.

It seems like many of this board's participants are from Illinois and/or the midwest area. I'd be curious to see where the largest amount of purchases come from. It would also be interesting to analyze exactly why this is.

I guess these ideas aren't just pertaining to OOTP5. The sales numbers OOTP4 and Tournament Dreams are also of much interest to me. Anywhere online where these numbers can be viewed? I would love to do a little third-party analysis.

03-04-2003, 05:27 PM

bump

Interesting questions, but generally they've kept sales figures a secret.

Draft Dodger · 03-04-2003, 05:29 PM

they've sold 1 copy that I know of for sure.

Steve Kuffrey · 03-04-2003, 05:31 PM

2 DD, not 1.

sporr · 03-04-2003, 05:34 PM

I know of another, so that would be 3.

white wolf · 03-04-2003, 05:37 PM

Quote: It seems like many of this board's participants are from Illinois and/or the midwest area. I'd be curious to see where the largest amount of purchases come from. It would also be interesting to analyze exactly why this is.

Most of America has quit on baseball. Football and basketball appeal to more people nowadays, for certain reasons. I think that the Midwest is one of the few areas where people actually care about baseball.

Case-at-hand: I am in Philadelphia. People here bleed Eagles-green, care somewhat about the 6ers or the Flyers (though we know they'll disappoint us in the end

). I haven't heard *one* comment referring to the Phillies. And they're supposed to be somewhat good this year.
I believe Philadelphia is a good example of what Big City U.S.'s attitude is towards baseball. Feel free to disagree - just don't mention the Yankees

TheRockCT · 03-04-2003, 05:38 PM

Steve, I think it's fairly safe to assume 3 copies of this game have been sold - I realize it might be a high figure, but I have a lot of faith in this game to eventually crack the 10 mark.....unprecendented I know, but very achievable.

Steve Kuffrey · 03-04-2003, 05:42 PM

I'm just messing around, we don't make sales figures public but the game is doing well.

Gastric ReFlux · 03-04-2003, 05:46 PM

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Shefflad · 03-04-2003, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by white wolf
Quote:
I believe Philadelphia is a good example of what Big City U.S.'s attitude is towards baseball. Feel free to disagree - just don't mention the Yankees

NYC is baseball crazy! However, city people are mostly Met fans. Most Yankee fans come from outside the city.

jcalvert · 03-04-2003, 05:58 PM

white wolf -

Quote:

Most of America has quit on baseball. Football and basketball appeal to more people nowadays, for certain reasons. I think that the Midwest is one of the few areas where people actually care about baseball.

I am not sure if it is regional, but I have always loved baseball. In recent years I have grown disgusted with the state of the game (I point blame to the owners *and* players). I do not think this has anything to do with me living in GA - I just grew tired of the crap.

With that said, the OOTP5 beta helped me find my way back to baseball *and* made me fall in love with text-sims. I had previously played Championship Manager, but it was more like dabbling. OOTP5 is truly a joy, which is saying a lot from a traditional console gamer.

Anyway, baseball had fallen off my radar - I still *followed* it and the Braves, but I did not really *follow* it if you catch my meaning. I love OOTP5 and I love the fact that I control everything about the game - custom leagues, fictional players, salary cap, no DH, and so on.

Anyway, long live baseball and OOTP!!!

Nirvana91 · 03-04-2003, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nirvana91
I'm curious as to what OOTP5's sales numbers are. Especially in comparison with last year's release. I'll understand if the .400 team wants to keep these figures in-house, but I am certainly curious.

Main things to focus on:
I would bet, that due to the demise of STB, there were quite a few additional "first-week" purchases. However, I wonder how this will affect long run sales, when compared with last years OOTP4 + STB2k3.

How many purchases were made by people who actually ordered the CD? I wonder what the ratio of CD purchasers to downloaders is.

It seems like many of this board's participants are from Illinois and/or the midwest area. I'd be curious to see where the largest amount of purchases come from. It would also be interesting to analyze exactly why this is.

I guess these ideas aren't just pertaining to OOTP5. The sales numbers OOTP4 and Tournament Dreams are also of much interest to me. Anywhere online where these numbers can be viewed? I would love to do a little third-party analysis.

I guess a similar question I have is: What is the marketing plan for .400 Studios? I don't want to get flamed, but I currently do not see any sort of marketing strategy whatsoever. I only found out about STB when browsing WallMart. There are a few reviews out, but not many. I know .400 is very small and probably very limited budget wise..... But if this game were marketed properly, I could envision it becoming a great selling game (then again, without sales figures, I could be wrong, it could actually be killing in sales).

I guess the way that I feel is that this game is so good that almost anybody could like it. I can imagine the commercials now.....

JML · 03-04-2003, 06:04 PM

I think what white wolf said makes some sense. The stereotype of midwesterners is that we are laid-back, easy-going, simple people. The kind of people who can still appreciate baseball.

The stereotype of the Coasts is fast-paced, short-attention span, "I don't have time to watch all that standing around" (see Dodger games... come late, leave early. Sorry, LL, but it is a common sterotype

)

I don't make the rules, I just follow 'em. So I say midwesterners are much cooler people in general, which is why we still care about the coolest game ever invented.

sporr · 03-04-2003, 06:13 PM

Midwesterner's rule

woody5254 · 03-04-2003, 06:15 PM

Upstate NY must be in the Midwest because I love baseball

HolyCow98 · 03-04-2003, 06:41 PM

I'm an east coast guy, lived in New England(CRAZY SOX FANS AND YANKEE HATERS) I've lived in FL....no comment....and GA, near Atlanta which might not have as many fans as up north but the ones they do are hard core, at least the ones I've met.

KCRoyalsFan · 03-04-2003, 06:54 PM

I'm one of those true blue royal fans. But Sweeney is leaving us if we don't hit .500 in 2 years. My attention towards the royals might leave too if this happens.

bulldog55 · 03-04-2003, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by white wolf
Most of America has quit on baseball.

Yeah, try living on the west coast.

NOBODY cares about baseball here. It really sucks.

satchel · 03-04-2003, 07:10 PM

I lived Major League Baseball for about twenty years, and now I don’t follow it one bit, except for the main articles in the paper. It disgusts me. But I love baseball.

satchel · 03-04-2003, 07:11 PM

And it would be a surprise to see any non-public company disclose its sales figures.

03-04-2003, 02:46 PM	#1
Nirvana91 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 162	So.....How is the game selling? I'm curious as to what OOTP5's sales numbers are. Especially in comparison with last year's release. I'll understand if the .400 team wants to keep these figures in-house, but I am certainly curious. Main things to focus on: I would bet, that due to the demise of STB, there were quite a few additional "first-week" purchases. However, I wonder how this will affect long run sales, when compared with last years OOTP4 + STB2k3. How many purchases were made by people who actually ordered the CD? I wonder what the ratio of CD purchasers to downloaders is. It seems like many of this board's participants are from Illinois and/or the midwest area. I'd be curious to see where the largest amount of purchases come from. It would also be interesting to analyze exactly why this is. I guess these ideas aren't just pertaining to OOTP5. The sales numbers OOTP4 and Tournament Dreams are also of much interest to me. Anywhere online where these numbers can be viewed? I would love to do a little third-party analysis.

03-04-2003, 05:29 PM	#3
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	they've sold 1 copy that I know of for sure. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

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03-04-2003, 05:37 PM	#6
white wolf Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 69	Quote: It seems like many of this board's participants are from Illinois and/or the midwest area. I'd be curious to see where the largest amount of purchases come from. It would also be interesting to analyze exactly why this is. Most of America has quit on baseball. Football and basketball appeal to more people nowadays, for certain reasons. I think that the Midwest is one of the few areas where people actually care about baseball. Case-at-hand: I am in Philadelphia. People here bleed Eagles-green, care somewhat about the 6ers or the Flyers (though we know they'll disappoint us in the end ). I haven't heard one comment referring to the Phillies. And they're supposed to be somewhat good this year. I believe Philadelphia is a good example of what Big City U.S.'s attitude is towards baseball. Feel free to disagree - just don't mention the Yankees __________________ Drink a highball And be jolly Here's a toast to dear old...

03-04-2003, 05:38 PM	#7
TheRockCT All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TN Posts: 1,083	Steve, I think it's fairly safe to assume 3 copies of this game have been sold - I realize it might be a high figure, but I have a lot of faith in this game to eventually crack the 10 mark.....unprecendented I know, but very achievable. __________________ GM, Vermont Emperor Penguins - POTD POTD Champions: 2011, 2012, 2013 GM, Monterrey Aztecs* - NABA *NABA Champions: 2013

03-04-2003, 05:27 PM	#2
ExposFan08 Guest Posts: n/a	bump Interesting questions, but generally they've kept sales figures a secret.

03-04-2003, 05:34 PM	#5
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	I know of another, so that would be 3.

03-04-2003, 05:42 PM	#8
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	I'm just messing around, we don't make sales figures public but the game is doing well. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

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03-04-2003, 06:04 PM	#13
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	I think what white wolf said makes some sense. The stereotype of midwesterners is that we are laid-back, easy-going, simple people. The kind of people who can still appreciate baseball. The stereotype of the Coasts is fast-paced, short-attention span, "I don't have time to watch all that standing around" (see Dodger games... come late, leave early. Sorry, LL, but it is a common sterotype ) I don't make the rules, I just follow 'em. So I say midwesterners are much cooler people in general, which is why we still care about the coolest game ever invented. Last edited by JML; 03-04-2003 at 06:06 PM.

03-04-2003, 06:13 PM	#14
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Midwesterner's rule

03-04-2003, 06:15 PM	#15
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03-04-2003, 06:41 PM	#16
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	I'm an east coast guy, lived in New England(CRAZY SOX FANS AND YANKEE HATERS) I've lived in FL....no comment....and GA, near Atlanta which might not have as many fans as up north but the ones they do are hard core, at least the ones I've met. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

03-04-2003, 06:54 PM	#17
KCRoyalsFan All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 599	I'm one of those true blue royal fans. But Sweeney is leaving us if we don't hit .500 in 2 years. My attention towards the royals might leave too if this happens.

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satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith Ark. USA Posts: 2,681	Baseball I lived Major League Baseball for about twenty years, and now I don’t follow it one bit, except for the main articles in the paper. It disgusts me. But I love baseball. __________________ JL Commish NPBL Rhode Island Reds ’33 ’34 ’35 TCBA San Francisco Railbornes ’74 ’76 ’77 ’78 FL New Orleans Black Sox ’56 ’57 ’58 ’59

03-04-2003, 07:11 PM	#20
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith Ark. USA Posts: 2,681	surprise And it would be a surprise to see any non-public company disclose its sales figures. __________________ JL Commish NPBL Rhode Island Reds ’33 ’34 ’35 TCBA San Francisco Railbornes ’74 ’76 ’77 ’78 FL New Orleans Black Sox ’56 ’57 ’58 ’59