September Call ups

Siv · 03-22-2002, 06:28 AM

Ok I haven't really been able to pound out to many OOTP4 seasons to see what effect it has. What affect does September Call ups have on prospects. Does it increase your payroll, does it increase their attitude or does it do anything?

Steve Kuffrey · 03-22-2002, 06:54 AM

No, they are already on your "payroll" so to speak, if they are ready or close to ready for the major league level it is probably a good idea.

Scott Vibert · 03-22-2002, 06:57 AM

What it does do that is negative is start the clock ticking... you have a few years when the players contract will be automatically renewed before he hits free agency, but promoting the player you start the first year of those automatic contracts.

Hope this helps.

GabeRivers · 03-22-2002, 08:51 AM

I agree with Scott. I never call up good rookie prospects for the first time in September. If you do, you're giving up a whole "free" year before the big salary demands kick in. At least that's my understanding of the way the game works -- someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Scott Vibert · 03-22-2002, 09:00 AM

That's correct, but I will call up a rookie prospect if I think he might be important to my team next year, but I'm just not sure I want to trust that he's ready, then I'll call him up and find out if he's ready or not.. and if he isn't well I've only lost a year, but now I know I need to get a stop gap to help me get through the next year.

I would just avoid bringing up a player for the sake of giving yourself 40 players on the team or just because they have a good year, I try to bring up some pitchers to help out, almost any player who was promoted earlier in the year or has ML experience (and isn't still learning a new position) maybe that non-prospect who had a great season but that I know I don't care about starting his clock early (at least I don't think he'll be any good but you never know), and then the prospects that might be useful for next year.. but these are generally the last guys I bring up.

bigphesta · 03-22-2002, 02:26 PM

I always bring up players at the call up. If I'm in the hunt for a playoff birth, I try to bring up players who can fill in my bullpen and get some pinch hits, but not much else. If I'm out of it, I simply bring up the players who I want to take a look at and see how they do. I'm not worried about their contracts, I'll simply resign them later. What's one year when it can help you judge their abilities?

Seton Hall Pirate · 03-22-2002, 04:30 PM

Typically I only call players up in September if they are older, and in fact, I never call up a guy to their first professional contract unless they are 25 or older(or older, depending on how deep my organization is with those types, or they will start for me for the entire season).

Tree · 03-23-2002, 03:49 AM

Actually, I've noticed that for every callup that hasn't had a contract before, it adds $100K to your salary. It's probably pro-rated to just one month.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Siv · 03-25-2002, 05:40 AM

I would think this could be a great thing for a player. It shouldn't start your number of years, but could help a players loyalty or something. Hey they should be pretty excited when they get their first "cup of coffee". Maybe Markus could look at this and not penalize teams for doing this. After all the whole purpose is to evaluate talent.

LeeAbe · 03-25-2002, 07:34 AM

So lets say a players contract is up this year, but he is not listed as being a free agent nect year. That means his contract will be reknewed automatically?

I have a pitcher whos contract was $100,000 and was up this year. He was not listed as a free agent next year. I thought this was a bug and signed a new contract. I was wrong to do this?

SSG Troyer · 03-25-2002, 07:42 AM

Yes, LeeAbe. Look under Player Salaries at the Front Office screen to see whether a $100,000 contract will be automatically renewed or not.

I will only do Sept callups on players with an existing Big League contract. They get these contracts during the regular season by injury or (rarely) slump replacement, or during the off season, because the guy who used to play that position is now gone, with the intent of playing the rookie.

I Am The Game · 03-25-2002, 08:25 AM

I also call-up playes with big league contracts. If they have a contract might as well fill the roster with them, as long as they aren't still developing in the minors. I will also call up a hot shot prospect if I plan for him to be on my team next season, to get his feet wet for his rookie season.

03-22-2002, 06:28 AM	#1
Siv Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 365	September Call ups Ok I haven't really been able to pound out to many OOTP4 seasons to see what effect it has. What affect does September Call ups have on prospects. Does it increase your payroll, does it increase their attitude or does it do anything?

03-22-2002, 06:54 AM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	No, they are already on your "payroll" so to speak, if they are ready or close to ready for the major league level it is probably a good idea. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-25-2002, 07:42 AM	#11
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,598	Yes, LeeAbe. Look under Player Salaries at the Front Office screen to see whether a $100,000 contract will be automatically renewed or not. I will only do Sept callups on players with an existing Big League contract. They get these contracts during the regular season by injury or (rarely) slump replacement, or during the off season, because the guy who used to play that position is now gone, with the intent of playing the rookie. __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!

03-22-2002, 06:57 AM	#3
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,268	What it does do that is negative is start the clock ticking... you have a few years when the players contract will be automatically renewed before he hits free agency, but promoting the player you start the first year of those automatic contracts. Hope this helps.

03-22-2002, 08:51 AM	#4
GabeRivers Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 82	I agree with Scott. I never call up good rookie prospects for the first time in September. If you do, you're giving up a whole "free" year before the big salary demands kick in. At least that's my understanding of the way the game works -- someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

03-22-2002, 09:00 AM	#5
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,268	That's correct, but I will call up a rookie prospect if I think he might be important to my team next year, but I'm just not sure I want to trust that he's ready, then I'll call him up and find out if he's ready or not.. and if he isn't well I've only lost a year, but now I know I need to get a stop gap to help me get through the next year. I would just avoid bringing up a player for the sake of giving yourself 40 players on the team or just because they have a good year, I try to bring up some pitchers to help out, almost any player who was promoted earlier in the year or has ML experience (and isn't still learning a new position) maybe that non-prospect who had a great season but that I know I don't care about starting his clock early (at least I don't think he'll be any good but you never know), and then the prospects that might be useful for next year.. but these are generally the last guys I bring up.

03-22-2002, 02:26 PM	#6
bigphesta Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,366	I always bring up players at the call up. If I'm in the hunt for a playoff birth, I try to bring up players who can fill in my bullpen and get some pinch hits, but not much else. If I'm out of it, I simply bring up the players who I want to take a look at and see how they do. I'm not worried about their contracts, I'll simply resign them later. What's one year when it can help you judge their abilities?

03-22-2002, 04:30 PM	#7
Seton Hall Pirate Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cheshire, CT Posts: 46	Typically I only call players up in September if they are older, and in fact, I never call up a guy to their first professional contract unless they are 25 or older(or older, depending on how deep my organization is with those types, or they will start for me for the entire season).

03-23-2002, 03:49 AM	#8
Tree Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 80	Actually, I've noticed that for every callup that hasn't had a contract before, it adds $100K to your salary. It's probably pro-rated to just one month. Correct me if I'm wrong.

03-25-2002, 05:40 AM	#9
Siv Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 365	I would think this could be a great thing for a player. It shouldn't start your number of years, but could help a players loyalty or something. Hey they should be pretty excited when they get their first "cup of coffee". Maybe Markus could look at this and not penalize teams for doing this. After all the whole purpose is to evaluate talent.

03-25-2002, 07:34 AM	#10
LeeAbe Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 46	So lets say a players contract is up this year, but he is not listed as being a free agent nect year. That means his contract will be reknewed automatically? I have a pitcher whos contract was $100,000 and was up this year. He was not listed as a free agent next year. I thought this was a bug and signed a new contract. I was wrong to do this?

03-25-2002, 08:25 AM	#12
I Am The Game All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 691	I also call-up playes with big league contracts. If they have a contract might as well fill the roster with them, as long as they aren't still developing in the minors. I will also call up a hot shot prospect if I plan for him to be on my team next season, to get his feet wet for his rookie season.