What ratings do you guys use?

Beaniegoose · 04-11-2017, 04:16 PM

I use the default 20-80 but I'm starting to wonder if this is optimal.

RchW · 04-11-2017, 04:57 PM

It's a personal choice. There is no optimal setting. Simply stated a fine scale 1-100 20-80 allows you to see small differences between players. These differences may or may not matter. Coarse scales 1-5 2-8 hide those differences. The 1-10 scale is closer to coarse than fine.

New players should probably use fine scales initially. Coarse scales make you more reliant on player stats over several seasons.

mitchkenn · 04-11-2017, 04:58 PM

they all basically say the same thing ... but i use 1-100, because i'm old and math challenged.

The Yurpman · 04-11-2017, 05:06 PM

I use 20-80 because that's how players and prospects are graded by Baseball America and I've just gotten used to it being that way.

KentCol · 04-11-2017, 10:27 PM

1-10. Because it's what I've always used.

Willie McCubby · 04-12-2017, 12:58 AM

20-80 and players rated relative to position; if in minors/international rated relative to MLB.

Padreman · 04-12-2017, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KentCol

1-10. Because it's what I've always used.

What's 1-10 I never seen that?

BigE · 04-12-2017, 07:05 AM

I use 1-20. I've played other sports sims which use 1-20 for so long I can make a pretty good read on players immediately.

Would take me a while to get used to anything else.

Klew1986 · 04-12-2017, 08:54 AM

I use 1-100, but have thought about switching to 1-20.

Mr. Marlin · 04-12-2017, 09:16 AM

I use none displayed. No ratings. No bars... no stars... stats and text scouting reports only. I tried stats only several versions back and have never gone back. I find it much more challenging.

low · 04-12-2017, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marlin

I use none displayed. No ratings. No bars... no stars... stats and text scouting reports only. I tried stats only several versions back and have never gone back. I find it much more challenging.

That's pretty hardcore, man. I love it.

Mr. Marlin · 04-12-2017, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by low

That's pretty hardcore, man. I love it.

Thanks. I recommend anyone to give it a try. You don't need to start a new game. Just turn all the ratings off for a season or two and set scouting accuracy to normal or low. If it's not for you turn it all back on.

One thing I like about it is it forces you to really get to know the players and dedicate some real time to scouting and drafting. Plus it makes you learn what all the stats really mean. After that you will appreciate real baseball even more.

It does require a lot of homework though and there are those that argue it's not terrible realistic either since real scouts to use the 20-80 system. There have been some serious flame wars on this subject over the years. But I like it. I find it more engrossing and immersive.

Calvert98 · 04-12-2017, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marlin

Thanks. I recommend anyone to give it a try. You don't need to start a new game. Just turn all the ratings off for a season or two and set scouting accuracy to normal or low. If it's not for you turn it all back on.

One thing I like about it is it forces you to really get to know the players and dedicate some real time to scouting and drafting. Plus it makes you learn what all the stats really mean. After that you will appreciate real baseball even more.

It does require a lot of homework though and there are those that argue it's not terrible realistic either since real scouts to use the 20-80 system. There have been some serious flame wars on this subject over the years. But I like it. I find it more engrossing and immersive.

I think that is cool. I have been thinking of doing something similar.

One thing to keep in-mind also is that I believe the bar graphs/stars supplement the fact that you do not have the type of in-person interactions, time and meetings with scouting staff, coaches, players, player game videos (At bats and so forth), etc…, that you would have in real life.

Question: you can just drop the “Stars” right? For me at least, that would might be a good fit. And then keep the 20 to 80 that Baseball America uses.

Mr. Marlin · 04-12-2017, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Calvert98

Question: you can just drop the “Stars” right? For me at least, that would might be a good fit. And then keep the 20 to 80 that Baseball America uses.

Absolutely. The beauty of OOTP is the degree to which you can customize the experience.

italyprof · 04-12-2017, 10:25 AM

I use 20-80 but mainly because I don't like how the stars look. I would like to graduate up to stats only.

RchW · 04-12-2017, 10:29 AM

What rating scale you use has no effect on stars.

Painmantle · 04-12-2017, 10:33 AM

I used to use 1-100, but I have really come to like 1-20.

hluraven · 04-12-2017, 11:55 AM

I personally play stats only, as I prefer the uncertainty. It's a bit easier to get better players as the human has an advantage over the AI, which tends to need the ratings as a crutch. But for things like working out the right time to promote, or which prospect to trade for, it's great to have the uncertainty.

tward13 · 04-12-2017, 12:47 PM

1-10. I don't see the point of 20-80.

TBPauly · 04-12-2017, 12:54 PM

I'm a 20-80 guy...just like the MLB scouts.

04-11-2017, 04:16 PM	#1
Beaniegoose Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Missouri Posts: 25	What ratings do you guys use? I use the default 20-80 but I'm starting to wonder if this is optimal.

04-11-2017, 04:57 PM	#2
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	It's a personal choice. There is no optimal setting. Simply stated a fine scale 1-100 20-80 allows you to see small differences between players. These differences may or may not matter. Coarse scales 1-5 2-8 hide those differences. The 1-10 scale is closer to coarse than fine. New players should probably use fine scales initially. Coarse scales make you more reliant on player stats over several seasons. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

04-11-2017, 04:58 PM	#3
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04-12-2017, 10:29 AM	#16
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	What rating scale you use has no effect on stars. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

04-12-2017, 10:33 AM	#17
Painmantle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greenfield ,IN Posts: 3,053	I used to use 1-100, but I have really come to like 1-20. __________________ “As soon as I got out there I felt a strange relationship with the pitcher's mound. It was as if I'd been born out there. Pitching just felt like the most natural thing in the world. Striking out batters was easy.” -Babe Ruth “Ruth made a grave mistake when he gave up pitching. Working once a week, he might have lasted a long time and become a great star.”-Tris Speaker My Dynasties The Beantown Bambino

04-11-2017, 05:06 PM	#4
The Yurpman Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 320	I use 20-80 because that's how players and prospects are graded by Baseball America and I've just gotten used to it being that way.

04-11-2017, 10:27 PM	#5
KentCol Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 216	1-10. Because it's what I've always used.

04-12-2017, 12:58 AM	#6
Willie McCubby Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 39	20-80 and players rated relative to position; if in minors/international rated relative to MLB.

04-12-2017, 07:05 AM	#8
BigE Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 2	I use 1-20. I've played other sports sims which use 1-20 for so long I can make a pretty good read on players immediately. Would take me a while to get used to anything else.

04-12-2017, 08:54 AM	#9
Klew1986 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,727	I use 1-100, but have thought about switching to 1-20.

04-12-2017, 09:16 AM	#10
Mr. Marlin All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,276	I use none displayed. No ratings. No bars... no stars... stats and text scouting reports only. I tried stats only several versions back and have never gone back. I find it much more challenging.

04-12-2017, 10:25 AM	#15
italyprof All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,029	I use 20-80 but mainly because I don't like how the stars look. I would like to graduate up to stats only.

04-12-2017, 11:55 AM	#18
hluraven Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 355	I personally play stats only, as I prefer the uncertainty. It's a bit easier to get better players as the human has an advantage over the AI, which tends to need the ratings as a crutch. But for things like working out the right time to promote, or which prospect to trade for, it's great to have the uncertainty.

04-12-2017, 12:47 PM	#19
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,965	1-10. I don't see the point of 20-80.

04-12-2017, 12:54 PM	#20
TBPauly Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pinellas Park, FL Posts: 58	I'm a 20-80 guy...just like the MLB scouts.