Historical Recreation

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I've been toying with the idea of doing a total historic recreation for awhile and am going to give it a shot. I'm not going to use the auto-scheduler, or the auto-aging system. This will be done "old school" style, keeping track of things in a few spreadsheets.

Start Date: January 1st, 1880

Rankings and Scheduling

At first, there will be no rankings. History is very spotty for this decade. Fighters disappear (at least from boxrec.com) for a good bit of time here and there. So, no rankings. Probably not until the turn of the century when history, at least for the top guys, is more complete.

Scheduling...I'm just following their actual history right now. When a fighter fights someone not in the database, I just add the result to their record and move on. When both are in the database, I sim the fight. In the case where a fighter goes on to fight for a title, if they lose their previous fight, the winner of that fight will fight for the title instead. I'm sure this will be the beginning of a butterfly effect, causing me to rearrange schedules as the effects ripple through history. That's one of the fun things of doing it this way, the "what if?" game.

Traits and Events

Another wrench I'm throwing into this game is have a list of possible traits and events for fighters.

Example if an event: When a fighter loses by KO, there's a 10% chance he'll gain the "Shell Shock" trait - he'll get a -2 penalty to his Aggressiveness, Killer Instinct and Punching for his next 2 fights. There's also a 25% chance that the trait will be permanent.

This is, in large part, how I'll be handling aging. Fighters are at risk to these types of events. I also have the "aging" event. Not yet set on how I'll handle it, but after a certain set of parameters is met, a fighter will have an X% chance to lose a point in a few of their attributes. Something like that. I'll see how it goes.

I'm still fleshing out the events ideas (so I won't be using them at first). I''ll be adding more as I think of them and if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears.

For now, I'm just going to use everyone's Prime rating.

Titles

No titles at the start. I'll start crowning champions sometime during the middle of the decade.

Anyway, let's get this started.

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Oh yeah, forgot about the rules for fights. Going with history for now. I might introduce judges and 10 point scoring sooner than is historic, but for now, the referee scores the fight, and it's based on rounds. 15 round fights (all of them for now). The fighter can not be saved by the bell and only the referee can stop the fight.

(fights that are in italics were not simmed due to one fighter not being in the database)

January, 1880

Jan 2nd: Morris Grant 0-0-0 KO7 Charles Cooley 0-0-0

Jan 10th: George Godfrey 2-0-1 (2) KO2 Tommy Williams 0-0-0
Jan 10th: Jake Kilrain 4-0-0 (3) PTS3 John Hughes 0-0-0

February 1880

Feb 26th: Alf Greenfield (1-2-0) DQ20 Jem Stewart (2-1-1)

Feb 28th: Bill Farnan 3-0-0 (3) KO1 Dick Atkinson 0-0-0
Feb 28th: Morris Grant 1-0-0 (1) DRAW Dangerous Jack Watson 0-0-0

March 1880

Mar 29th: Harry Mead 1-0-0 PTS3 Jack Watts 0-0-0

Mar 30th: Harry Mead 2-0-0 PTS15 Bob Laxton 0-0-0
Ref Scorecard: 11-1 (I'm assuming 3 rounds were scored a draw)

Mar 30th: Harry Mead 3-0-0 PTS3 Harry Solomon 5-2-0

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April 1880

Apr 27th: Jack Burke 4-2-0 PTS3 Abe Atterbruy 0-0-0
Apr 27th: Jack Burke 5-2-0 PTS3 Jem Gaiger 1-0-0

May 1880

May 24th: Charlie Norton 0-1-0 RTD7 Alfred Heath 0-0-0

Promoted as "Heavyweight Championship of America"
May 30th: Joe Goss 1-1-1 (1) PTS15 Paddy Ryan 0-0-0
Ref Decision: 7-4

In real life, Paddy Ryan won by decision and this was Joe Goss' last fight. Paddy Ryan goes on to fight John L. Sullivan in a fight billed as a title fight, but not until 1882 (not listed on boxrec, but is on Cyber Boxing Zone's list of fights for Sullivan).

I think I'll have Goss stay out of retirement and have him fight that fight instead. (It just so happens Goss did fight Sullivan a week before Sullivan's fight with Ryan in an exhibition).

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June 1880

June 28th: John L. Sullivan 2-0-0 (2) KO1 George Rooke 0-1-0

June 29th: George Fulljames 0-0-0 D18 Jack King 0-0-0

July 1880

No fights.

August 1880

Aug 12th: Professor John Donaldson 0-0-0 TKO5 James Taylor 0-0-0

Aug 21st: Charlies Richardson 1-0-1 (1) KO5 Anthony Leslie* 0-0-0

*-boxrec doesn't have a first name for him, so I gave him one. Nor did it have a round number for the KO, so I picked a random round for that too.

September 1880

No fights.

October 1880

Oct 1st: Charlie Richardson 2-0-1 (2) KO5 Alec Chalmers 0-0-0

November 1880

No fights.

December 1880

Dec 17th: William Sheriff 0-0-0 RTD11 Denny Harrington 3-2-0

Dec 24th: John L. Sullivan 3-0-0 (3) TKO2 Professor John Donaldson 1-0-0 (1)

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January 1881

Jan 14th: Professor Charles Hadley 4-0-1 (4) TKO14 Morris Grant 1-0-1 (1)

February 1881

"Australian Heavyweight Title"
Feb 1st: Bill Farnan 4-0-0 (4) PTS15 (9-5) Charlie Richardson 3-0-1 (3)

Feb 6th: Dominick McCaffrey 0-0-0 TKO9 Charles Cooley 0-1-0

March 1881

Mar 31st: Morris Grant 1-1-1 (1) PTS15 (10-4) Charles Cooley 0-2-0
Mar 31st: John L. Sullivan 4-0-0 (4) PTS15 (14-1) Steve Taylor 0-3-0

April 1881

No fights.

May 1881

May 16th: John L. Sullivan 5-0-0 (4) KO8 John Flood 0-0-0

May 17th: Professor Charles Hadley 5-0-1 (5) KO18 Professor Anderson 0-1-0

May 19th: Jack Burke 6-2-0 TKO4 William Coddy Middings 0-0-0
May 19th: Jack Burke 7-2-0 (1) PTS3 Pat Condon 2-0-0

June 1881

June 3rd: Professor Charles Hadley 6-0-1 (6) KO3 J.H. Brown 0-2-0

June 15th: C.C. Smith 12-0-0 KO3 Professor John Donaldson 1-1-0 (1)

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So I already broke a rule. I saw that Mike Donovan (active from 1866 to 1896) was not in the default database. So for him, I sought out a file in the Mods forum and imported him. I guess I'll do that for any of the top guys who got missed. For the journeymen and lower, I'm not going to bother.

July 1881

July 11th: John L. Sullivan 6-0-0 (5) KO1 Fred Crossley 0-0-0

July 16th: Peter Newton 7-0-3 (7) D15 Abe Hicken 0-1-1

July 21st: John L. Sullivan 7-0-0 (6) KO1 Dan McCarty 0-0-0

August 1881

Aug 1st: Mike Donovan 16-2-4 (1) TKO10 Jack "Bubbles" Davis 0-0-0

Aug 9th: John L. Sullivan 8-0-0 (7) TKO7 Capt. James Dalton 0-0-0

September 1881

Sept 1st: Dominick McCaffrey 1-0-0 (1) TKO9 Mike Cleary 6-0-0 (6)
Sept 1st: Mike Donovan 17-2-4 (2) PTS15 George Burke 0-0-0

Sept 2nd: George Godfrey 3-0-1 (3) KO3 Tommy Williams 0-1-0

Sept 3rd: John L. Sullivan 9-0-0 (8) KO1 Jack Burns 0-0-0

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October 1881

Oct 7th: Jem Carney 1-0-0 (1) D43 Jemmy Highland 0-0-0

November 1881

Nov 5th: Charlie Richardson 3-1-1 (3) D15 Dick Atkinson 0-1-0

Nov 26th: Marcellus Baker 2-0-1 KO15 Jimmy Hurst 0-0-0

December 1881

Dec 1st: George Rooke 0-2-0 KO11 WC McClellan 3-1-1 (1)
Dec 1st: Professor Charles Hadley 7-0-1 (7) TKO2 Morris Grant 2-1-1 (1)

Dec 3rd: Charlie Richardson 3-1-2 (3) KO5 Dick Atkinson 0-1-1

Dec 5th: Jim Steadman 0-1-0 PTS3 Harry Mead 4-0-0

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Had an issue with the game. A few of my fighters suddenly had empty ratings records. I updated the fighter data and it re-added the ratings records, but I had to go to each fighter and set their ratings record back to "Prime" from "Empty".

If this is an issue I'm going to have to deal with from time to time, it's going to get really old really fast.

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January 1882

Jan 1st: Charlie Rachardson 4-1-2 (4) KO5 Anthony Wright 0-0-0
Jan 1st: Paddy Ryan 0-1-0 D15 (6-6) Captain James Dalton 0-1-0
Jan 1st: George Godfrey 4-0-1 (4) KO6 Jake Kilrain 5-0-0 (3)

Jan 26th: George Godfrey 5-0-1 (5) PTS15 (8-6) Professor Charles Hadley 8-0-1 (8)

* I missed a fight between Charles Hadley and Morris Grant. They fight like 10 more time in 1882 so no biggie.

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February 7th, 1882
American Heavyweight Championship
John L. Sullivan 10-0-0 (9) PTS15 (11-4) Joe Goss 2-1-1 (1)

Following the fight, Joe Goss announces his retirement.

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April 1st, 1882
Bill Farnan 5-0-0 (4) KO8 Peter Newton 7-0-4 (7)

April 3rd, 1882
Harry Mead 4-1-0 PTS4 Bill Green 0-0-0

April 3rd, 1882
Morris Grant 2-2-1 (1) TKO6 Professor Charles Hadley 8-1-1 (8)

April 20th, 1882
John L. Sullivan 11-0-0 (9) TKO3 John McDermont 0-0-0

April 26th, 1882
Professor Charles Hadley 8-2-1 (8) KO5 Morris Grant 3-2-1 (2)

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June 7th, 1882
George Rooke 1-2-0 (1) KO4 Joe Denning 0-0-0

June 20th, 1882
Professor Charles Hadley 9-2-1 (9) KO10 Morris Grant 3-3-1 (2)

June 29th, 1882
Morris Grant 3-4-1 (2) PTS4 Viro Small 0-0-0

July 4th, 1882
John L. Sullivan 12-0-0 (10) KO3 Jimmy Elliot 1-0-0

July 26th, 1882
Professor Charles Hadley 10-2-1 (10) PTS4 Frank Johnson 0-0-0

August 14th, 1882
Harry Mead 5-1-0 PTS3 Jim Brock 0-0-0

September 23rd, 1882
John L. Sullivan 13-0-0 (11) TKO3 Henry Higgins 0-0-0

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October 16th, 1882
John L. Sullivan 14-0-0 (12) KO2 JP Stockton 0-0-0

October 18th, 1882
Mike Cleary 6-1-0 (6) TKO7 George Rooke

October 30th, 1882
John L. Sullivan 15-0-0 (13) KO1 Charley O'Donnell 0-0-0

November 7th, 1882
Morris Grant 4-4-1 (2) DQ13 Professor Charles Hadley 11-2-1 (10)
DQ'ed for headbutting

November 14th, 1882
Professor John Donaldson 1-2-0 (1) D4 C.C. Smith 16-0-0

November 15th, 1882
John P. Clow 0-0-0 KO17 William Cush 0-0-0

November 17th, 1882
John L. Sullivan 16-0-0 (14) TKO1 P.J. Rentzler 0-0-0

December 1st, 1882
Dominick McCaffrey 2-0-0 (2) TKO7 Harry Gilmore 9-0-0 (3)
Morris Grant 5-4-1 (2) TKO13 Professor Charles Hadley 11-3-1 (10)

December 4th, 1882
Harry Mead 5-1-0 PTS3 Arthur Cooper 1-1-0
Harry Mead 6-1-0 PTS3 David Gamin 0-0-0

December 21st, 1882
Jack Knifton 3-0-0 (1) TKO12 William Cody Maddocks 0-1-0

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Well, I just realized I forgot to activate all of the fighters who started in 1882. Oops.

So now I added the 1882 and 1883 fighters. I skipped some, though. The fighters who only had a few fights, all or most loses, I decided to just leave them out.

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January 10th, 1883
Joe Butler 0-0-0 KO1 John Banks 0-0-0
Professor Charles Hadley 11-4-1 (10) TKO8 Harry Woodson 1-0-0

January 15th, 1883
Joe Butler 1-0-0 (1) KO3 George Reading 0-0-0

January 17th, 1883
Professor Charles Hadley 12-4-1 (11) PTS15 (9-4) George Godfrey 6-0-1 (5)

January 20th, 1883
Joe Butler 2-0-0 (2) TKO2 George Reading 0-1-0

January 25th, 1883
Joe Butler 3-0-0 (3) TKO18 Abe Harris 0-0-0

January 30th, 1883
Joe Butler 4-0-0 (4) TKO9 William White 0-0-0

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February 7th, 1883
Professor Charles Hadley 13-4-1 (11) TKO2 Harry Woodson 1-1-0

February 8th, 1883
Jack Burke 8-2-0 (1) PTS3 Lumpy Hughes 3-3-0
George Rooke 2-3-0 (2) D4 Gus Lambert 3-1-1

February 10th, 1883
Jake Kilrain 5-1-0 (3) PTS4 John Allen 0-0-0

February 14th, 1883
Jack Burke 9-2-0 (1) PTS4 Jack Massey 4-2-0
Jack Burke 10-2-0 (1) TKO5 William Coddy Maddings 0-2-0

February 17th, 1883
Jack Burke 11-2-0 (2) KO6 Tom Connors 0-0-0

February 23rd, 1883
George Godfrey 6-1-1 (5) KO6 Professor Charles Hadley 14-4-1 (12)

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March 7th, 1883
Harry Woodson 1-2-0 KO66 Steve Williams 0-0-0

March 8th, 1883
Harry Woodson 2-2-0 (1) PTS4 Viro Small 0-1-0

March 19th, 1883
George Godfrey 7-1-1 (6) PTS6 Dan Foley 0-0-0

March 21st, 1883
Harry Woodson 3-2-0 (1) D15 Pat Connors 0-0-0

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April 1st, 1883
Harry Gilmore 9-1-0 (3) PTS3 Jack Keenan 0-0-0
Duncan McDonald 1-0-0 (1) D4 Jack Waite 0-0-0

April 3rd, 1883
Jack Burke 12-2-0 (3) KO8 Jim Garwood 0-0-0

April 5th, 1883
Harry Gilmore 10-1-0 (3) PTS3 Jack Keenan 0-1-0

April 6th, 1883
Harry Woodson 3-2-1 (1) KO7 James McLaughlin 0-0-0

April 7th, 1883
Harry Gilmore 11-1-0 (3) PTS3 Jack Keenan 0-2-0

April 9th, 1883
Charlie Mitchell 14-0-2 (2)* TKO6 Mike Cleary 7-1-0 (7)

April 10th, 1883
Harry Gilmore 12-1-0 (3) PTS3 Jack Keenan 0-3-0

April 13th, 1883
Harry Gilmore 13-1-0 (3) TKO2 Jim Morey 0-0-0

April 15th, 1883
Harry Gilmore 14-1-0 (4) PTS3 Jim Morey 0-1-0
Gus Lambert 3-1-2 PTS4 Dominick McCaffrey 3-0-0 (3)

April 16th, 1883
Jake Kilrain 5-1-0 (3) TKO4 John McGlynn 0-0-0

April 17th, 1883
Harry Woodson 4-2-1 (2) KO2 Big Baily 0-0-0

April 18th, 1883
Harry Gilmore 15-1-0 (4) PTS3 Jim Morey 0-2-0

April 21st, 1883
Harry Gilmore 16-1-0 (4) KO4 Walter DeBaum 0-0-0

* - Oops, forgot about Charlie Mitchell. Haven't been keeping track of him, but he cames back on the radar at just the right time. He fights John L. Sullivan next month.

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May 10th, 1883
George Godfrey 8-1-1 (6) PTS15 McHenry Johnson 0-0-0
Ref. Dec: 11-2

May14th, 1883
"World Heavyweight Championship" (unofficial)
John L. Sullivan 17-0-0 (15) KO4 Charlie Mitchell 15-0-2 (3)
John L. Sullivan had been promoted as the American champion while Charlie Mitchell had been promoted as the English champion.

May 16th, 1883
George Godfrey 9-1-1 (6) PTS15 Jake Kilrain 6-1-0 (4)
Ref. Dec: 10-4

May 26th, 1883
Barney Donovan 7-0-0 KO4 Tom Harris 0-0-0

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June 3rd, 1883
John Connors 0-0-0 PTS6 Harry Woodson 5-2-1 (3)

June 6th, 1883
Duncan McDonald 1-0-1 (1) PTS119 John Rowell 0-0-0

June 8th, 1883
Dominick McCaffrey 3-1-0 (3) KO3 Jimmy Ryan 0-0-0

June 9th, 1883
Barney Donovan 8-0-0 (1) KO2 Micky Kirby 1-1-1

June 10th, 1883
Charlie Mitchell 15-1-2 (3) KO1 Kevin Garrett

June 28th, 1883
Jack Burke 13-2-0 (4) PTS3 J. Nixey 0-0-0

June 29th, 1883
Jack Burke 14-2-0 (4) TKO10 Alf Greenfield 2-2-0