Cooperstown Invitational Tournament (NCAA Baseball)

Robo · 03-17-2017, 02:01 PM

I am a big fan of college baseball, especially the NCAA Tournament. The only thing I wish, is they had a second tournament, kind of like the NIT in basketball. I came up with this second tournament which I am naming the Cooperstown Invitational Tournament. It is designed for mid major teams only, No power 5 teams are allowed in this tournament. It would first, take any regular season conference champions (also includes divisional champions) in the mid major conferences that missed the NCAA Tournament. Unfortunately 8 regular season conference champions missed the NCAA Tournament. The rest of the 32 team field would be chosen on RPI rankings, no teams would be allowed with a losing record, except for regular season conference champions. The top 8 seeds are the highest ranked in the RPI.

The top 8 would be host sights for the first round. Each bracket would consist of 4 teams in a double elimination tournament. The layout is exactly the same as the NCAA Tournament. The 2 seed in each bracket would be the conference champions unless they are in the top 8 of the RPI . The 3 and 4 seeds would set by the rest of the teams ranking in the RPI.
The final eight teams will play at Double Day Field in Cooperstown, NY. This will also be a double elimination tournament, with the final two teams playing in a double elimination to decide the Champion.

I will simulate all of these games with Bigrod’s NCAA template. I am not sure if this is the correct forum for this, I wanted to share it. I apologize if it is not. I will be posting the brackets in a little while, followed by the first round. This is the actual NCAA Baseball 2016 final standings that I am using.

Regular season Conference Champions (Div. Champions)
1. Kennesaw State
2. Kent State
3. Ball State
4. Norfolk Sate
5. Florida A&M
6. Mercer
7. Arkansas Pine Bluff
8. Seattle University

Top 8 Seeds (First Round Host Sites):
1. Creighton
2. Northwestern State
3. BYU
4. Houston
5. Marshall
6. North Florida
7. Hartford
8. College of Charleston

Final 16 in RPI ranking
1. Indiana State
2. UNC Greensboro
3. VCU
4. Lamar
5. Old Dominion
6. Missouri State
7. Jacksonville
8. Georgia Southern
9. New Orleans
10. Pepperdine
11. Jacksonville State
12. Troy
13. Fresno St.
14. UTA
15. McNeese St.
16. Austin Peay

nutt · 03-22-2017, 12:17 PM

in a sense, some of the mid-majors in baseball are far more superior than some Power 5 schools. Take for example the B1G: They were a one-bid conference for a really long time to the NCAA Tournament. The A-Sun, Big West, C-USA, Southland, and Sun Belt constantly would get on average three bids a year.

When it comes to baseball, I'd more inclined to say the Power 5 would be the ACC, SEC, Pac-12, Big 12, and Big West. AAC, C-USA are your semi-powers, along with the B1G and the Valley. After that, then its all mid-majors (OVC, A-Sun, Horizon, WAC, etc.)

buckeye22 · 03-22-2017, 10:09 PM

Yep, as a Big Ten guy, we're REALLY hurt by the weather up here in the late winter/early spring. Can't practice quite as early or as much, can't really play home games until late March and even that is iffy. While the idea of a basically a month long spring break in Florida sounds great....all of that missed class time and time away from home isn't easy.

It's gotten better with the start of the season pushed back in terms of practice time, and obviously the Big Ten schools in particular all have LOADS of cash (and therefore still have pretty top notch facilites for baseball). They're closing the gap SOME....but the Big West with Fullerton, CUSA with Rice, the Sun Belt, etc. IMO are all ahead of us.

Don't take this as me complaining about some kind of unfair advantage. We deal with the cards (and weather) we're given and make the best of it. It's not the southern schools fault and they shouldn't have to give up their advantage. It's just hard.

Anyway back on topic, I LOVE this idea! I think there's too many tournaments in college basketball these days (CBI? CIT?), but having a college baseball version of the NIT would be great! Football has the bowls for everyone who misses the playoff. The NIT is great for basketball (although I think more of the 20 win mid major runner ups should make it over some of the 17-15 majors...but I digress lol). Really wish baseball had something. Or was a bigger deal in general.

baseballfanmas · 03-23-2017, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by buckeye22

Yep, as a Big Ten guy, we're REALLY hurt by the weather up here in the late winter/early spring. Can't practice quite as early or as much, can't really play home games until late March and even that is iffy. While the idea of a basically a month long spring break in Florida sounds great....all of that missed class time and time away from home isn't easy.

It's gotten better with the start of the season pushed back in terms of practice time, and obviously the Big Ten schools in particular all have LOADS of cash (and therefore still have pretty top notch facilites for baseball). They're closing the gap SOME....but the Big West with Fullerton, CUSA with Rice, the Sun Belt, etc. IMO are all ahead of us.

Don't take this as me complaining about some kind of unfair advantage. We deal with the cards (and weather) we're given and make the best of it. It's not the southern schools fault and they shouldn't have to give up their advantage. It's just hard.

Anyway back on topic, I LOVE this idea! I think there's too many tournaments in college basketball these days (CBI? CIT?), but having a college baseball version of the NIT would be great! Football has the bowls for everyone who misses the playoff. The NIT is great for basketball (although I think more of the 20 win mid major runner ups should make it over some of the 17-15 majors...but I digress lol). Really wish baseball had something. Or was a bigger deal in general.

Could not agree more with everything you've said. Always wished there was a secondary tournament in college baseball (and softball too). As a huge college basketball fan as well, I love that there is the NIT, and I could do without the others (I think there's like 2 or 3 others). Same with college football. I love the bowl system.

For me personally, I love this idea, even if my team isn't in it. I'm a Wichita State Shocker fan true and through and it pains me to see how far in the dumps they've gotten. Heck, they wouldn't even make a secondary tournament nowadays if there was one for college baseball.

03-17-2017, 02:01 PM	#1
Robo All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,374	Cooperstown Invitational Tournament (NCAA Baseball) I am a big fan of college baseball, especially the NCAA Tournament. The only thing I wish, is they had a second tournament, kind of like the NIT in basketball. I came up with this second tournament which I am naming the Cooperstown Invitational Tournament. It is designed for mid major teams only, No power 5 teams are allowed in this tournament. It would first, take any regular season conference champions (also includes divisional champions) in the mid major conferences that missed the NCAA Tournament. Unfortunately 8 regular season conference champions missed the NCAA Tournament. The rest of the 32 team field would be chosen on RPI rankings, no teams would be allowed with a losing record, except for regular season conference champions. The top 8 seeds are the highest ranked in the RPI. The top 8 would be host sights for the first round. Each bracket would consist of 4 teams in a double elimination tournament. The layout is exactly the same as the NCAA Tournament. The 2 seed in each bracket would be the conference champions unless they are in the top 8 of the RPI . The 3 and 4 seeds would set by the rest of the teams ranking in the RPI. The final eight teams will play at Double Day Field in Cooperstown, NY. This will also be a double elimination tournament, with the final two teams playing in a double elimination to decide the Champion. I will simulate all of these games with Bigrod’s NCAA template. I am not sure if this is the correct forum for this, I wanted to share it. I apologize if it is not. I will be posting the brackets in a little while, followed by the first round. This is the actual NCAA Baseball 2016 final standings that I am using. Regular season Conference Champions (Div. Champions) 1. Kennesaw State 2. Kent State 3. Ball State 4. Norfolk Sate 5. Florida A&M 6. Mercer 7. Arkansas Pine Bluff 8. Seattle University Top 8 Seeds (First Round Host Sites): 1. Creighton 2. Northwestern State 3. BYU 4. Houston 5. Marshall 6. North Florida 7. Hartford 8. College of Charleston Final 16 in RPI ranking 1. Indiana State 2. UNC Greensboro 3. VCU 4. Lamar 5. Old Dominion 6. Missouri State 7. Jacksonville 8. Georgia Southern 9. New Orleans 10. Pepperdine 11. Jacksonville State 12. Troy 13. Fresno St. 14. UTA 15. McNeese St. 16. Austin Peay __________________ //www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?t=290508 Last edited by Robo; 03-17-2017 at 02:06 PM.

03-22-2017, 12:17 PM	#2
nutt OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,181	in a sense, some of the mid-majors in baseball are far more superior than some Power 5 schools. Take for example the B1G: They were a one-bid conference for a really long time to the NCAA Tournament. The A-Sun, Big West, C-USA, Southland, and Sun Belt constantly would get on average three bids a year. When it comes to baseball, I'd more inclined to say the Power 5 would be the ACC, SEC, Pac-12, Big 12, and Big West. AAC, C-USA are your semi-powers, along with the B1G and the Valley. After that, then its all mid-majors (OVC, A-Sun, Horizon, WAC, etc.)

03-22-2017, 10:09 PM	#3
buckeye22 Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 322	Yep, as a Big Ten guy, we're REALLY hurt by the weather up here in the late winter/early spring. Can't practice quite as early or as much, can't really play home games until late March and even that is iffy. While the idea of a basically a month long spring break in Florida sounds great....all of that missed class time and time away from home isn't easy. It's gotten better with the start of the season pushed back in terms of practice time, and obviously the Big Ten schools in particular all have LOADS of cash (and therefore still have pretty top notch facilites for baseball). They're closing the gap SOME....but the Big West with Fullerton, CUSA with Rice, the Sun Belt, etc. IMO are all ahead of us. Don't take this as me complaining about some kind of unfair advantage. We deal with the cards (and weather) we're given and make the best of it. It's not the southern schools fault and they shouldn't have to give up their advantage. It's just hard. Anyway back on topic, I LOVE this idea! I think there's too many tournaments in college basketball these days (CBI? CIT?), but having a college baseball version of the NIT would be great! Football has the bowls for everyone who misses the playoff. The NIT is great for basketball (although I think more of the 20 win mid major runner ups should make it over some of the 17-15 majors...but I digress lol). Really wish baseball had something. Or was a bigger deal in general.