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Old 04-11-2016, 08:02 AM   #1
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Smile Feeder League Questions

Hey so I started my league with the intent of just using feeder league players in the draft so I created 3 college league and 4 HS leagues in my game and edited them so that all of them will be 18 HS and between 20-22 for college. I then edited the rule setting of my league so that only feeder league players will be in the draft pool. When i get to the announcement of the pool there are these 19 year old and 23 year old high school and college players that are not in the feeder leagues. How can I fix this?

the setting for my HS feeder league is 14/14 create player and 14/17 rules and draft eligible after max age is surpassed

the setting for College is 18/18 create player and 18/21 rules and draft eligible 1 year prior to max age
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:25 AM   #2
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I also have a similar issue...using the MLB i added feeder college league and set the draft to only use feeder players. My feeder league is setup to only have players in the draft when the max age is reached but random players have been showing up of all different ages. Trying to figure out what im doing wrong
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:23 AM   #3
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Those may be players who weren't drafted in previous seasons and didn't go on to play college. Players remain draft eligible until they turn 25 and their parents make them get a real job Check their histories and see if they went undrafted at some point maybe even undrafted and went back to school. I see those types of players in the online league I run. They are there but aren't good enough to be drafted so they hang around until they age out.

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Old 04-11-2016, 01:01 PM   #4
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Nope they weren't drafted in previous years they just randomly show up with no stats at all and are to old to be playing in HS or College. I'm on Year 4 of my GM career and they still pop up even though they weren't in any feeder leagues and I have the settings set for just Feeder League players. Would like to be able to fix this issue if anyone can help thanks.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:35 PM   #5
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Hey so I started my league with the intent of just using feeder league players in the draft so I created 3 college league and 4 HS leagues in my game and edited them so that all of them will be 18 HS and between 20-22 for college. I then edited the rule setting of my league so that only feeder league players will be in the draft pool. When i get to the announcement of the pool there are these 19 year old and 23 year old high school and college players that are not in the feeder leagues. How can I fix this?

the setting for my HS feeder league is 14/14 create player and 14/17 rules and draft eligible after max age is surpassed

the setting for College is 18/18 create player and 18/21 rules and draft eligible 1 year prior to max age
Without knowing for sure how your league is set up I can not answer 100% but I think I understand enough to grasp your problem. Here is a guide to go by that might help.

Feeder League Guide

1) Before deciding on number of feeders, you need to decide on how many draft rounds to use. The rule of thumb is you need 5 new players for each level of minors to replace guys who you want to cut, who are on long term injuries, retire, etc.

- Formula for suggested draft rounds
- Rounds = 5 * levels of minors.
- Standard MLB (30 Teams) setup has AAA, AA, A+, A, SS A-, R, R Teams. So 7 total minor teams.
- So in this instance 5 * 7 = 35 Rounds.

2) Next, decide on the number of feeder teams you will need to populate this draft. Each feeder team produces 6 to 9 players for the draft per year. Taking the number of players needed for the draft and dividing by 6 gives you the minimum number of feeders you need. The guideline here is:

- # of feeder teams needed = (number of teams in parent league x number of draft rounds)/6

-So, using the example from above, let's say your parent league has 30 teams. (30 x 35)/6 = 175. You need around 175 feeder league teams to completely feed your draft with feeder league players. The configuration of teams in your feeder leagues does not matter, as long as you have a total of 175 teams or so. Many people increase this number, resulting in more players than there are draft slots. Players that go undrafted will become free agents. If you create a configuration that doesn't generate enough feeder league players, OOTP will generate fictional players for the draft pool to cover the difference.

3a) Setting up age minimums and maximums for leagues on the RULES screen.

- High school ex. would be Age min = 14, Age max = 17. Players will mostly be 18 when they enter the draft.
- JUCO ex. would be Age min = 18, Age max = 19. Players will be mostly 20 when they enter the draft. ***(OPTIONAL)***
- College ex. would be Age min = 18, Age max = 21. Players will be mostly 22 when they enter the draft.

3b) Setting up age minimums and maximums for leagues on the PLAYERS screen.

- High school ex. would be Age min = 14, Age max = 14.
- JUCO ex. would be Age min = 18, Age max = 18. ***(OPTIONAL)***
- College ex. would be Age min = 18, Age max = 18.

- These settings will result in High School players beginning play at age 14, most playing for four years and entering the draft at age 18.
- These settings will result in JUCO players beginning play at age 18, most playing for two years and entering the draft at age 20.
- These settings will result in College players beginning play at 18, most playing for four years and entering the draft at age 22.

I typed this out from memory so if anyone notices any errors please make note.

Hope this helps you locke!
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Old 04-11-2016, 05:41 PM   #6
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Okay so i started a new league to try out your settings, I created 150 college teams and 300 HS teams and set it for 40 rounds and feeder league players only. I get to the draft pool announcement and there are still these random players who aren't in any feeder leagues in the Pool. Is it because the 1st year has players in it regardless if i set it to feeder league players only? and if so why are they older then a regular HS or college player ?
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Old 04-11-2016, 06:40 PM   #7
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Okay so i started a new league to try out your settings, I created 150 college teams and 300 HS teams and set it for 40 rounds and feeder league players only. I get to the draft pool announcement and there are still these random players who aren't in any feeder leagues in the Pool. Is it because the 1st year has players in it regardless if i set it to feeder league players only? and if so why are they older then a regular HS or college player ?

That is A LOT of feeder teams! How many Major teams do you have in your league? Also, what do you mean by "random" players? Is it that they do not have any stats and/or are older?
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Old 04-11-2016, 07:43 PM   #8
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I play just MLB and full minor league teams. They are randomly created older players that aren't on any team. They are also older then most HS and College players. I made that many feeder teams cause I wanted to make sure I wasn't screwing up the settings lol, and it also emulates real life to some extent.

Also what are your settings for draft eligibility start, for college I have 1 year prior to max age which is 21 and for HS i have if max age is surpassed and that is 17

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Old 04-11-2016, 08:07 PM   #9
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Could he be referring to the real draft classes that are included with the game? Assuming that is still done?
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:19 PM   #10
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Could he be referring to the real draft classes that are included with the game? Assuming that is still done?
Yes, that is what is going on here. You can't turn off the real draft classes, even with feeders.
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Old 04-11-2016, 08:29 PM   #11
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Yes, that is what is going on here. You can't turn off the real draft classes, even with feeders.
Would we just sim out a few years then setup a feeder league for MLB?
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:03 AM   #12
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Is there a college/highschool feeder league mlb quick start available anywhere? that doesnt have any issues?
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Old 04-12-2016, 01:56 AM   #13
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Would we just sim out a few years then setup a feeder league for MLB?


Ya breeze that will do it. In my experiences usually 3 years and you should be running on straight feeders. Maybe it's 4 if there are some stranglers behind.

This should be an optional feature imo.
- created players
- feeders plus real life draft classes
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- feeder leagues ONLY
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:21 AM   #14
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Another option is before setting up feeders go into the all players screen and filter out all players not on a team. This will leave you with maybe the 50 real free agents and the rest the upcoming real draft picks.
Mass select, unclick the free agents you want to keep. Then delete all.
The real life draft classes are gone.

I would save a template now to avoid this step again if something goes wrong.

Now set up your feeders. Should work fine, though first few drafts may have a few non feeder players as the first few year might be just a few guys short, but it should only be a few.
Should work fine.
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Old 04-13-2016, 02:25 PM   #15
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how about stat and LCM settings? I keep getting whacky stats in my feeder (College and HS) leagues.
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Old 04-13-2016, 02:38 PM   #16
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how about stat and LCM settings? I keep getting whacky stats in my feeder (College and HS) leagues.
Awful metal bats tend to do that.
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Old 04-13-2016, 02:41 PM   #17
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I'm getting ERAs in the 9's-10's.
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Old 04-14-2016, 07:34 PM   #18
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So I let the game setup a feeder league for me thinking it would get the right number of feeder teams for my league. But the draft pool has 9000 players lol. My draft is set for 35 rounds with only feeder league players.
The feeder league has 320 HS teams and 100 College teams. (Yeah that's a lot of teams) If all 420 teams produced 9 players (using the 6-9 player per team) then I should only have 3780 players for the draft pool but the actual number for my current draft class is 9738. That's 23 players per feeder team!! What am I doing wrong and how do I fix it.
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Old 04-14-2016, 10:42 PM   #19
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I would like to use Randomize Draft Classes starting in 2016 with the real ones.
Also another problem can't get past 2003 Draft becuase no Teams show up for it but maybe I change the year to 2004 and skip it Historical Drafts don't mimic the ones from real life.
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Old 04-15-2016, 08:44 AM   #20
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Are there any mods for this year draft class? I do follow game real time, and I imported the game from OOTP 16, so I wish they could provide this year class for my game. Is that possible?
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