Current ratings are more more than potential ratings

[xw668]

In my league I GM Oakland A'S, after one season I found that there is a player who stand out in the whole league. His name is Cody Asche I've never heard of him before. In real world he just has a OPS+74 season this year but in my league he plays better than Mike Trout and Bryce Harper.







This is just weird so I use Commissioner Mode to see his real ratings:





His current power ratings are more than potential ratings. And guess what, after several months his current power ratings become more exaggerated:







His team's hitting coach is not very good, why this guy becomes a super hitter? I'm not complaining, I mean this is very very funny, just wondering why?

[sprague]

Something is really strange. He is a real player. So this is a ml quickstart i am guessing

If so, go and fire up a new game and immediately in comish mode check his starting ratings and see if he is starting that high, or if he is more like his 126 potentials.
At least see if the oddity is out of the box, or as the game goes on

[JMDurron]

I use the editor constantly to scout both actual and potential ratings of all my players, and this happens all the time. It's not an oddity, so much as it is a player whose ability is temporarily (could last a few months, could last multiple years) able to perform better than their base potential ratings would otherwise allow. I don't know what could cause it, between morale, coaching, random talent changes, etc., but it is a normal and regular thing in my leagues.

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by sprague

Something is really strange. He is a real player. So this is a ml quickstart i am guessing

If so, go and fire up a new game and immediately in comish mode check his starting ratings and see if he is starting that high, or if he is more like his 126 potentials.
At least see if the oddity is out of the box, or as the game goes on

The OP is in December 2017 in his game, so the development engine easily could've turned Asche into a star.

[sprague]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

The OP is in December 2017 in his game, so the development engine easily could've turned Asche into a star.

Thats fine. The question is why would not potential following along.
Esp based on how ootp ratings work where potential is best possible.
It just does not match the system

[endgame]

Originally Posted by sprague

Thats fine. The question is why would not potential following along.
Esp based on how ootp ratings work where potential is best possible.
It just does not match the system

Simplest answer? Because potential is more of a magnet than a measure.

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by sprague

Thats fine. The question is why would not potential following along.
Esp based on how ootp ratings work where potential is best possible.
It just does not match the system

Sorry, I'm not following what you're saying. My point was looking at ratings when the game is created and comparing to the screenshots from December 2017 won't tell you anything. If that's not what you were suggesting, I apologize.

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by endgame

Simplest answer? Because potential is more of a magnet than a measure.

I think this is a good explanation. In real life, Gary Sanchez's power potential is good, but in the past two months, he's been performing well above his potential. Cody Asche in the OP's screenshots is a similar situation. At least that's how I read it. Hopefully Matt will see this and clarify.

[NoOne]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

I think this is a good explanation. In real life, Gary Sanchez's power potential is good, but in the past two months, he's been performing well above his potential. Cody Asche in the OP's screenshots is a similar situation. At least that's how I read it. Hopefully Matt will see this and clarify.

well, it's not about results though. i.e. sanchez isn't getting stronger because he hit more home runs last month, or whatever. sometimes you flip a coin and you get 5 straight heads, but it's still 50% each flip.

what sanchez is doing is already in the game. small sample sizes can yield odd results. i just had a guy with 60/100 power have 9hr in first month or some really short period to start the season. he had twice as many HR as the real power hitters at that point....

think of overall > potential more as an overachiever. someone getting more from their inherent talent than others of equal talent. more tangible than a hot streak or small sample result. he actually has an elevated probability of hits/HR/whatever while those ratings stay steady in the video game.

it won't "pull" potential up. there is a limit as to how far above it will go -- ignoring instances when potential recently fell drastically. in which case, current ability will soon fall, too.

i see this with players that are fully developed and still fairly young - like under 30-32, but not impossible for an older player to have ratings above potential. if perfromance affects ratings at all, this would the the small way in which they could logically do so - a small ebb and flow around potential -- but not a "real" change of potential like aging or TCR does. in other words it's relative to potential, but doesn't change potential. somethign akin to confidence affecting performance, but i'm pretty sure older age makes this less likely to occur (could be fooled by constant drops in potential).... confidence would be born solely from results / personality.