Rule 5 Draft

Dyzalot · 06-29-2015, 11:44 PM

Am I missing something? Shouldn't these guys be ineligible for the draft?

IsaacR · 06-29-2015, 11:52 PM

What's your game date?

Dyzalot · 06-30-2015, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by isaacr

what's your game date?

12/1/2018

It is a 2015 MLB quick start that I have simmed out to this point so far.

IsaacR · 06-30-2015, 12:04 AM

Then both those players should be inelligible...

Dyzalot · 06-30-2015, 12:14 AM

Guess I'll post it in the bugs section.

byzeil · 06-30-2015, 12:19 AM

By default a major league "year" is 172 days. These 2 guys have 3 years and 188 days service time which is actually 4 years 16 days. SO they are eligible for the Rule 5 draft.

Dyzalot · 06-30-2015, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by byzeil

By default a major league "year" is 172 days. These 2 guys have 3 years and 188 days service time which is actually 4 years 16 days. SO they are eligible for the Rule 5 draft.

Need 5 years of service time if signed before the age of 19 though. Right?

byzeil · 06-30-2015, 12:26 AM

I believe it is 4 years (signed prior to 19), 3 if signed after they are 19 (I think, found 2 conflicting sources so far)

edit: OK, I think you are right. Signed before 19 should be 5 years.....I think

Dyzalot · 06-30-2015, 12:28 AM

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Can any Minor League player be drafted?

No. Players who were signed when they were 19 or older and have played in professional baseball for four years are eligible, as are players who were signed at 18 and have played for five years.

FAQ | MLB.com: Minors

byzeil · 06-30-2015, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyzalot

FAQ | MLB.com: Minors

Yup, you are correct, just found the same page.

IsaacR · 06-30-2015, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by byzeil

I believe it is 4 years (signed prior to 19), 3 if signed after they are 19 (I think, found 2 conflicting sources so far)

edit: OK, I think you are right. Signed before 19 should be 5 years.....I think

The rule changed a few years back, adding an extra year. This may just be OOTP using the old rule.

Lazy Horse · 06-30-2015, 06:05 PM

Could this be an effect of league evolution?

RchW · 06-30-2015, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy Horse

Could this be an effect of league evolution?

Worth checking.

Dyzalot · 06-30-2015, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy Horse

Could this be an effect of league evolution?

I have league evolution turned on but deselected all the rule changes so that only more/less hitting or pitching, expansion, team relocation & team nickname changes are allowed to "evolve". I also haven't seen an announcement in the offseason notifying me of any change in the rules for the rule 5 draft.

Also I just looked at the league evolution settings and there is no option for the rule 5 draft so either it can't evolve or it is a part of the evolution that can't be deselected and when it does change doesn't give a notice to the GM in the offseason. So I guess it is possible but would probably still be considered a bug or something to fix?

IsaacR · 06-30-2015, 08:05 PM

I think OOTP is still using the old rules. I'm not close to the rule V but when I get there I will check.

RchW · 06-30-2015, 10:31 PM

Rule 5 works exactly as it should in my leagues and has worked correctly in all or maybe all but one version of OOTP since v5. I wonder why certain posters always seem to get the leagues where something that always works suddenly doesn't.

NoOne · 06-30-2015, 10:39 PM

i notice this happens when i sign a free agent minor leaguer that i created - they get 3 years. not sure which of those designations are the important one, but it is consistent behaviour.

were these created fictional players?

were they free agent minor leaguers you signed off the heap?

Dyzalot · 07-01-2015, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Rule 5 works exactly as it should in my leagues and has worked correctly in all or maybe all but one version of OOTP since v5. I wonder why certain posters always seem to get the leagues where something that always works suddenly doesn't.

You just love to troll me.

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Originally Posted by NoOne

i notice this happens when i sign a free agent minor leaguer that i created - they get 3 years. not sure which of those designations are the important one, but it is consistent behaviour.

were these created fictional players?

were they free agent minor leaguers you signed off the heap?

They were signed as free agents by my assistant GM who I delegate that to. Not sure if they are fictional. I started a 2015 Quick Start and it is 2019 now with them being signed in 2016 I think so maybe fictionally created by the game itself? I don't create any fictional players on my own so not really sure.

RchW · 07-01-2015, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyzalot

You just love to troll me.

Asking questions is trolling? Methinks you are too sensitive. Is this the same league with all the AI problems?

Dyzalot · 07-01-2015, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Asking questions is trolling? Methinks you are too sensitive. Is this the same league with all the AI problems?

Same league as any of the recent AI issues I posted involving the San Diego Padres or their players. Previous posts in that thread have been from two previous leagues, one where I ran the Astros and one where I ran the Twins. All the leagues have been MLB quick starts with minimal changes to the default settings. And I apologize if I misinterpreted your remarks but the "smiley" you posted made me think you were assuming I am "cooking the books" in order to make the AI look bad or something.

And yes, I am a bit sensitive on these forums after so many people accusing me of basically the above with several veterans blocking me as if I'm some "9/11 truther" or something.

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byzeil Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ, US Posts: 2,007	I believe it is 4 years (signed prior to 19), 3 if signed after they are 19 (I think, found 2 conflicting sources so far) edit: OK, I think you are right. Signed before 19 should be 5 years.....I think Last edited by byzeil; 06-30-2015 at 12:30 AM.

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06-30-2015, 10:39 PM	#17
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	i notice this happens when i sign a free agent minor leaguer that i created - they get 3 years. not sure which of those designations are the important one, but it is consistent behaviour. were these created fictional players? were they free agent minor leaguers you signed off the heap? Last edited by NoOne; 06-30-2015 at 10:41 PM.

06-29-2015, 11:52 PM	#2
IsaacR Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Bowie, Maryland Posts: 464	What's your game date?

06-30-2015, 12:04 AM	#4
IsaacR Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Bowie, Maryland Posts: 464	Then both those players should be inelligible...

06-30-2015, 12:14 AM	#5
Dyzalot All Star Starter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,767	Guess I'll post it in the bugs section.

06-30-2015, 12:19 AM	#6
byzeil Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ, US Posts: 2,007	By default a major league "year" is 172 days. These 2 guys have 3 years and 188 days service time which is actually 4 years 16 days. SO they are eligible for the Rule 5 draft.

06-30-2015, 06:05 PM	#12
Lazy Horse Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 36	Could this be an effect of league evolution?

06-30-2015, 08:05 PM	#15
IsaacR Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Bowie, Maryland Posts: 464	I think OOTP is still using the old rules. I'm not close to the rule V but when I get there I will check.