2003 Rosters: Give Me Some Test Prospects

GForce22 · 01-07-2003, 11:53 AM

I am in the midst of adjusting my spreadsheets (for formulas, not to be used for importing) to develop ratings for players based on 2002 performance. I want to see if the ratings come out well. This sheet has been adjusted specifically for OOTP, so it will spit out current and potential ratings. I want to run some test prospects through the sheet just to see if we like the ratings. I may not get to run the guys through until later in the week, but the sooner I can get sheets done, the sooner I can start on ratings for 2003. I only have the hitter sheets done now, so please limit this to a) 2 prospects per person, and b) hitters ONLY. I will do this for pitchers once that sheet is done too, but first I need to do hitters.

Thanks!

GH

doubles · 01-07-2003, 01:33 PM

Brandon Phillips

Thanks
Jared

GForce22 · 01-07-2003, 02:48 PM

OK, current and potential ratings for Brandon Phillips and, being a Mets fan, Jose Reyes.

Code:

Phillips (Potential on top, current on bottom):
AB       H        2B        3B      HR       BB       SO        AVG
550	161	35	0	24	35	87         0.293 
550	132	29	0	20	29	103	0.24

Reyes
AB       H        2B        3B      HR       BB         SO       AVG
550	168	30	12	6	39	87         0.305
550	126	23	9	5	29	109       0.229

They look pretty good to me. Mets fans eager to see Reyes rushed should not be expecting huge offense from this kid yet. If he develops as scouts seem to think, he may develop more power, but as I have said before I am a big believer in going by what a guy has done, not how they hope he grows/matures.

These guys are actually pretty similar, though Phillips certainly has more power potential. Neither have shown an inclination to draw a heck of a lot of walks either. Odds are that both will have solid careers though, with Phillips more of an immediate help.

Thoughts, comments, questions, whatever fire away. More guys you want me to run through, let me know. I need to see from more prospects, but from this limited sample I like it.

GH

GForce22 · 01-07-2003, 03:23 PM

here are a couple more... Carl Crawford (TB) and Marlon Byrd (PHI)

Code:

Crawford
550	156	25	8	6	26	83	0.284
550	128	21	7	5	21	98	0.233

Byrd
550	172	33	6	28	55	96	0.313
550	141	27	5	23	45	113	0.256

Byrd is the real deal, I think. Get this guy in there.

GH

doubles · 01-07-2003, 04:07 PM

Looks good to me..

Jared

AsTrOFaN · 01-07-2003, 05:21 PM

John Buck

deadringer · 01-07-2003, 05:25 PM

How about Joe Thurston (LA)?

LivnLegend · 01-07-2003, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by deadringer
How about Joe Thurston (LA)?

Was going to suggest him myself. And Luke Allen (LA) who tore it up in Winter ball this year, although he probably still isn't a great prospect.

GForce22 · 01-07-2003, 05:56 PM

If I don't have Buck and Thurston out by 6:30 I'll get to them later tonight or tomorrow.

In the meantime, here are two more I figured I would throw out there, one of whom I'm not sure we really call a "prospect" anymore.

Code:

Juan Rivera (NYY)
AB	H	2B	3B	HR	BB	SO	AVG
550	177	39	2	28	31	77	0.322
550	145	32	2	23	25	91	0.264

Corey Patterson (CHC)
AB	H	2B	3B	HR	BB	SO	AVG
550	145	32	4	19	31	113	0.264
550	139	28	5	13	18	132	0.253

GH

Shorty · 01-07-2003, 06:03 PM

3B Brandon Larson

GForce22 · 01-07-2003, 06:16 PM

Here's Buck, I'll get to other guys later or tomorrow.
BUck isn't ready yet, but he should be a good one.

Code:

John Buck (again, potentials on top, current on bottom)
AB	H	2B	3B	HR	BB	SO	AVG
550	140	31	1	25	40	109	0.255
550	105	23	1	19	30	136	0.191

GH

zyk · 01-07-2003, 06:18 PM

SP Rafial Soriano, CF Chris Snelling both from the mariners

General Mike · 01-07-2003, 06:48 PM

How bout CF Rocco Baldelli and LF Jack Cust

Dwolfson20 · 01-07-2003, 07:12 PM

1B Ken Harvey (KC)

Made the Hall of Fame with 2001 rosters.

JWay · 01-07-2003, 07:52 PM

Willie Bloomquist, and Jamal Strong

gpm22 · 01-07-2003, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zyk
SP Rafial Soriano, CF Chris Snelling both from the mariners

He only wants hitters.

TotalEnd98 · 01-07-2003, 11:13 PM

Drew Henson.

Total Nirvana · 01-07-2003, 11:18 PM

1B Prince Fielder (Brewers I think)

GForce22 · 01-07-2003, 11:33 PM

ok, first from the list...

Code:

Joe Thurston (LA)
AB	H	2B	3B	HR	BB	SO	AVG
550	174	34	7	11	35	53	0.316
550	143	28	6	9	29	63	0.26

Luke Allen (LA)
AB	H	2B	3B	HR	BB	SO	AVG
550	169	32	3	18	56	93	0.307
550	139	26	2	15	46	110	0.253

Brandon Larson (CIN)
AB	H	2B	3B	HR	BB	SO	AVG
550	167	34	1	43	40	139	0.304
550	137	28	1	35	33	164	0.249

I like Thurston's ratings a lot. I like Allen's too, though that potential average could be a bit high (however, he hit 34 and 57 points above the league average the past two years, respectively). Larson had a ridiculous year this year, so his ratings are blown up somewhat. He's also old for "prospect" status. I may need to adjust the age factor in these calculations. I probably have more questions about Larson's ratings than anyone's who I have sampled thus far.

GH

Total Nirvana · 01-07-2003, 11:44 PM

I have three more

1B Xavier Nady, SS Khalil Greene, and OF Kory Dehaan (San Diego)

01-07-2003, 11:53 AM	#1
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	2003 Rosters: Give Me Some Test Prospects I am in the midst of adjusting my spreadsheets (for formulas, not to be used for importing) to develop ratings for players based on 2002 performance. I want to see if the ratings come out well. This sheet has been adjusted specifically for OOTP, so it will spit out current and potential ratings. I want to run some test prospects through the sheet just to see if we like the ratings. I may not get to run the guys through until later in the week, but the sooner I can get sheets done, the sooner I can start on ratings for 2003. I only have the hitter sheets done now, so please limit this to a) 2 prospects per person, and b) hitters ONLY. I will do this for pitchers once that sheet is done too, but first I need to do hitters. Thanks! GH

01-07-2003, 02:48 PM	#3
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	OK, current and potential ratings for Brandon Phillips and, being a Mets fan, Jose Reyes. Code: Phillips (Potential on top, current on bottom): AB H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG 550 161 35 0 24 35 87 0.293 550 132 29 0 20 29 103 0.24 Reyes AB H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG 550 168 30 12 6 39 87 0.305 550 126 23 9 5 29 109 0.229 They look pretty good to me. Mets fans eager to see Reyes rushed should not be expecting huge offense from this kid yet. If he develops as scouts seem to think, he may develop more power, but as I have said before I am a big believer in going by what a guy has done, not how they hope he grows/matures. These guys are actually pretty similar, though Phillips certainly has more power potential. Neither have shown an inclination to draw a heck of a lot of walks either. Odds are that both will have solid careers though, with Phillips more of an immediate help. Thoughts, comments, questions, whatever fire away. More guys you want me to run through, let me know. I need to see from more prospects, but from this limited sample I like it. GH

01-07-2003, 03:23 PM	#4
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	here are a couple more... Carl Crawford (TB) and Marlon Byrd (PHI) Code: Crawford 550 156 25 8 6 26 83 0.284 550 128 21 7 5 21 98 0.233 Byrd 550 172 33 6 28 55 96 0.313 550 141 27 5 23 45 113 0.256 Byrd is the real deal, I think. Get this guy in there. GH

01-07-2003, 05:56 PM	#9
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	If I don't have Buck and Thurston out by 6:30 I'll get to them later tonight or tomorrow. In the meantime, here are two more I figured I would throw out there, one of whom I'm not sure we really call a "prospect" anymore. Code: Juan Rivera (NYY) AB H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG 550 177 39 2 28 31 77 0.322 550 145 32 2 23 25 91 0.264 Corey Patterson (CHC) AB H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG 550 145 32 4 19 31 113 0.264 550 139 28 5 13 18 132 0.253 GH

01-07-2003, 06:03 PM	#10
Shorty All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 992	3B Brandon Larson __________________ Here we go Redlegs here we go!

01-07-2003, 01:33 PM	#2
doubles Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 485	Brandon Phillips Thanks Jared

01-07-2003, 04:07 PM	#5
doubles Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 485	Looks good to me.. Jared

01-07-2003, 05:21 PM	#6
AsTrOFaN Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 334	John Buck

01-07-2003, 05:25 PM	#7
deadringer All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: La Grande, Oregon Posts: 995	How about Joe Thurston (LA)?

01-07-2003, 06:16 PM	#11
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	Here's Buck, I'll get to other guys later or tomorrow. BUck isn't ready yet, but he should be a good one. Code: John Buck (again, potentials on top, current on bottom) AB H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG 550 140 31 1 25 40 109 0.255 550 105 23 1 19 30 136 0.191 GH

01-07-2003, 06:18 PM	#12
zyk Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: vegas Posts: 177	SP Rafial Soriano, CF Chris Snelling both from the mariners

01-07-2003, 06:48 PM	#13
General Mike Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerset, NJ Posts: 255	How bout CF Rocco Baldelli and LF Jack Cust

01-07-2003, 07:12 PM	#14
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	1B Ken Harvey (KC) Made the Hall of Fame with 2001 rosters. __________________

01-07-2003, 07:52 PM	#15
JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,031	Willie Bloomquist, and Jamal Strong

01-07-2003, 11:13 PM	#17
TotalEnd98 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,687	Drew Henson.

01-07-2003, 11:18 PM	#18
Total Nirvana All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 750	1B Prince Fielder (Brewers I think) __________________ Total Hockey Commissioner Your Off-Topic Nightmare. Free Agent OT Player - Plays 1B/3B/OF, hits for power on all fields, great fielder, can hit .330 a season!

01-07-2003, 11:33 PM	#19
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	ok, first from the list... Code: Joe Thurston (LA) AB H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG 550 174 34 7 11 35 53 0.316 550 143 28 6 9 29 63 0.26 Luke Allen (LA) AB H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG 550 169 32 3 18 56 93 0.307 550 139 26 2 15 46 110 0.253 Brandon Larson (CIN) AB H 2B 3B HR BB SO AVG 550 167 34 1 43 40 139 0.304 550 137 28 1 35 33 164 0.249 I like Thurston's ratings a lot. I like Allen's too, though that potential average could be a bit high (however, he hit 34 and 57 points above the league average the past two years, respectively). Larson had a ridiculous year this year, so his ratings are blown up somewhat. He's also old for "prospect" status. I may need to adjust the age factor in these calculations. I probably have more questions about Larson's ratings than anyone's who I have sampled thus far. GH

01-07-2003, 11:44 PM	#20
Total Nirvana All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 750	I have three more 1B Xavier Nady, SS Khalil Greene, and OF Kory Dehaan (San Diego) __________________ Total Hockey Commissioner Your Off-Topic Nightmare. Free Agent OT Player - Plays 1B/3B/OF, hits for power on all fields, great fielder, can hit .330 a season!