Holy moly

[Baseballman2K5]

515 feet!

[jpeters1734]

how far is your OF fence? you can 1000 ft homers if you set the fence high enough

[Baseballman2K5]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

how far is your OF fence? you can 1000 ft homers if you set the fence high enough

they're the real life distances

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

how far is your OF fence? you can 1000 ft homers if you set the fence high enough

Setting the fence to 1000' high won't make them any longer.

If you set to 1000' away it will.

[Bluenoser]

In OOTP, HR distance is cosmetic. If you set your stadiums to all have 800 ft deep plus OF's, you'll see lots of 800" plus HR's.

[harrumph]

HR distance is cosmetic in real life too. So what?

It's 328 feet to left in Cincinatti. That's a mammoth home run any way you slice it.

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Setting the fence to 1000' high won't make them any longer.

If you set to 1000' away it will.

You know what I mean, lol.

BTW, completely unrelated, but these are in the "More" smileys, lol!

[harrumph]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

Goodness gracious! Won't somebody think of the children?!

[RchW]

nm

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by harrumph

HR distance is cosmetic in real life too. So what?

It's 328 feet to left in Cincinatti. That's a mammoth home run any way you slice it.

How is it cosmetic irl? The distance in Cincy is a "real" 328 ft.

In OOTP the "328" ft. isn't real. That's why if you change it 800 ft, you'll still have HR's to LF, but they'll show as having travelled 800 ft plus.

If you go to CIncy (irl) and move the LF fence back to 800 ft, well, that will be real and you won't be seeing anymore HR's to LF ever again in Cincy.

That's what I mean by "cosmetic".

IRL - distances are real with a real effect.

In OOTP, they aren't real, nor is that effect.

[chucksabr]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

How is it cosmetic irl? The distance in Cincy is a "real" 328 ft.

In OOTP the "328" ft. isn't real. That's why if you change it 800 ft, you'll still have HR's to LF, but they'll show as having travelled 800 ft plus.

If you go to CIncy (irl) and move the LF fence back to 800 ft, well, that will be real and you won't be seeing anymore HR's to LF ever again in Cincy.

I get what you're saying, but this is not exactly true. What would happen is that any hard line shot to left center that splits the fielders will also end up being a home run. This will probably also be true for any fliner hit over the LF's head.

What would happen is that the left fielder would have to play back much farther to prevent the extra base hit. With LF and LC averaging around 330 and 375, respectively, a fielder can play about 300 feet from the plate and cover his ground. If the fence were to move back to 800 feet, I think the left fielder would probably have to push way back to about 400 feet from the plate, so he does not allow any balls to get hit past him for a homer. The downside of this strategy, though, is that a lot more line drives and shallow fly balls will fall in for hits, although he will be able to keep most of them to a single. That would be the trade-off he'd have to make, I believe.

This, by the way, is a key reason why we don't see any .400 hitters anymore, as well: there are no "grand canyon" ballparks that are 380 or 400 down the lines, 440 to 475 to the gaps and 515 to center, like this one was, where outfielders have to play back and give up more singles in front of them to prevent more extra base hits and homers behind them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to show you up, or be a smart ass on this. I found this a fascinating thought exercise, so I went with it.

[jpeters1734]

In that case chuck, OOTP still differentiates between an inside the park hr and an over the fence hr. Change the fence to 800 feet and you will see 800 ft over the fence hrs.

Edit 1:Btw, it is interesting about what you said regarding the .400 batters. I never really wondered why but it makes perfect sense.

Edit 2: it's also interesting since you brought it up, how would you simulate the conditions of those big parks? Is there anyway to create more inside the park HRs?

[harrumph]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

How is it cosmetic irl? The distance in Cincy is a "real" 328 ft.

In OOTP the "328" ft. isn't real. That's why if you change it 800 ft, you'll still have HR's to LF, but they'll show as having travelled 800 ft plus.

If you go to CIncy (irl) and move the LF fence back to 800 ft, well, that will be real and you won't be seeing anymore HR's to LF ever again in Cincy.

That's what I mean by "cosmetic".

IRL - distances are real with a real effect.

In OOTP, they aren't real, nor is that effect.

It doesn't matter whether it barely scrapes over the fence or flies 600 feet—a homer is a homer. That's what I mean when I say that distance is cosmetic. It's fun to see a guy hit one 515 feet because it's really rare, and it's rare both in the game and in real life.

Nothing in OOTP is real—all the career records, all the amazing plays, they're just the products of a bunch of scripts and algorithms crunching numbers. That doesn't stop it from being fun. The fact that you could get 800-foot homers by moving the fences back doesn't make a 515-foot shot in a ballpark with real dimensions any less impressive, just like knowing that you could cook the settings and have a guy get 100 homers in a season doesn't make having one of your players hit 60 fair and square any less satisfying.

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by harrumph

It doesn't matter whether it barely scrapes over the fence or flies 600 feet—a homer is a homer. That's what I mean when I say that distance is cosmetic. It's fun to see a guy hit one 515 feet because it's really rare, and it's rare both in the game and in real life.

Nothing in OOTP is real—all the career records, all the amazing plays, they're just the products of a bunch of scripts and algorithms crunching numbers. That doesn't stop it from being fun. The fact that you could get 800-foot homers by moving the fences back doesn't make a 515-foot shot in a ballpark with real dimensions any less impressive, just like knowing that you could cook the settings and have a guy get 100 homers in a season doesn't make having one of your players hit 60 fair and square any less satisfying.

No one is saying that a 515 ft hr in a normal park isn't impressive. The conversation just veered off because we started talking about how hr distance is dictated only by the field dimensions

[ra7c7er]

There as to be a range built into the game though. I mean you aren't going to see a 1000 foot home run just because 1000 is higher than 328.

I'd venture to guess max range is probably 100-150 ish feet beyond the wall. with anything over 100 feet beyond a very rare occurrence. In all the games I've played I've only seen 1 home run over 500 feet and it was 502.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by harrumph

It doesn't matter whether it barely scrapes over the fence or flies 600 feet—a homer is a homer. That's what I mean when I say that distance is cosmetic. It's fun to see a guy hit one 515 feet because it's really rare, and it's rare both in the game and in real life.

Nothing in OOTP is real—all the career records, all the amazing plays, they're just the products of a bunch of scripts and algorithms crunching numbers. That doesn't stop it from being fun. The fact that you could get 800-foot homers by moving the fences back doesn't make a 515-foot shot in a ballpark with real dimensions any less impressive, just like knowing that you could cook the settings and have a guy get 100 homers in a season doesn't make having one of your players hit 60 fair and square any less satisfying.

Cosmetic | Define Cosmetic at Dictionary.com

Real | Define Real at Dictionary.com

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by chucksabr

I get what you're saying, but this is not exactly true. What would happen is that any hard line shot to left center that splits the fielders will also end up being a home run. This will probably also be true for any fliner hit over the LF's head.

What would happen is that the left fielder would have to play back much farther to prevent the extra base hit. With LF and LC averaging around 330 and 375, respectively, a fielder can play about 300 feet from the plate and cover his ground. If the fence were to move back to 800 feet, I think the left fielder would probably have to push way back to about 400 feet from the plate, so he does not allow any balls to get hit past him for a homer. The downside of this strategy, though, is that a lot more line drives and shallow fly balls will fall in for hits, although he will be able to keep most of them to a single. That would be the trade-off he'd have to make, I believe.

This, by the way, is a key reason why we don't see any .400 hitters anymore, as well: there are no "grand canyon" ballparks that are 380 or 400 down the lines, 440 to 475 to the gaps and 515 to center, like this one was, where outfielders have to play back and give up more singles in front of them to prevent more extra base hits and homers behind them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to show you up, or be a smart ass on this. I found this a fascinating thought exercise, so I went with it.

For the sake of clarification - You won't see any more HR's over the fence.

I've seen bunt singles turn into ITPHR's. A ball hit between the OF'ers might be a HR and it might not. Depends on how far the fielder has to run to get it. Depends on his arm strength and the relay mans arm strength. Depends on the speed of the runner, etc etc.

A ball hit over a fence in fair territory beyond a fielders reach is a HR, period.

A ball hit into any part of the playing field may be a HR and it may not. Many variables come into play determining if it will be or won't be.

There are no variables on the ball hit over the fence - it's a HR.

[harrumph]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Cosmetic | Define Cosmetic at Dictionary.com

Real | Define Real at Dictionary.com

Could you explain how either of those definitions contradicts anything I wrote? There's no need to be so rude, by the way.

[Baseballman2K5]

cosmetic, real, 1000 feet, 800 feet...whatever...


all i know is Stanton hit the furthest HR i've ever seen in this game

and lol i like the new smilies

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by harrumph

Could you explain how either of those definitions contradicts anything I wrote? There's no need to be so rude, by the way.

I explained how the distances in OOTP work, and pointed out how they were cosmetic.

Your reply was that they are cosmetic irl and OOTP.

I then provided a link to "explain" (there's your explanation) the difference between cosmetic and real.

Sorry, but irl distances are not cosmetic, they are real and so is the distance the ball travels.

In OOTP, they are cosmetic, (not real).


I explained this because it's good information for new people to the game, and long time players too. Most people like to know these things, I guess you don't. Fine, that's your prerogative.

When people on these forums offer help and explain things, they aren't being rude.

I've been playing this game since version one and helping people with it for just about as long.

You're not interested in that info or help, fine, I'll respect that and move along.