Do dimensions matter in the sim or just park factor?

jpeters1734 · 07-15-2014, 10:20 PM

This is a two part question. I want to recreate some indy league stadiums. I don't really care if the dimensions are right but I'd like the park factor to be right.

first question is do dimensions really matter in ootp or is it cosmetic? I would think that as long as park factors are correct, then you will see a proportionate amount of stats.

second question. I've never attempted to do park factors. How exactly do I figure it out? Does someone have a calculator for it? Thanks for your answers.

Lukas Berger · 07-15-2014, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

This is a two part question. I want to recreate some indy league stadiums. I don't really care if the dimensions are right but I'd like the park factor to be right.

first question is do dimensions really matter in ootp or is it cosmetic? I would think that as long as park factors are correct, then you will see a proportionate amount of stats.

second question. I've never attempted to do park factors. How exactly do I figure it out? Does someone have a calculator for it? Thanks for your answers.

Dimensions are cosmetic. If you set the dimensions to 900 ft, you'll see plenty of 900ft HR's!

Park factors do matter. Not sure on setting park factors, hopefully someone else can help with that.

megamanmatt · 07-15-2014, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

This is a two part question. I want to recreate some indy league stadiums. I don't really care if the dimensions are right but I'd like the park factor to be right.

first question is do dimensions really matter in ootp or is it cosmetic? I would think that as long as park factors are correct, then you will see a proportionate amount of stats.

second question. I've never attempted to do park factors. How exactly do I figure it out? Does someone have a calculator for it? Thanks for your answers.

1) Only the park factors matter if I'm not mistaken.

2) http://www.ootpmods.com/mods/Gambo_S...Chart_2013.rar

Contains all current and most past MLB ballparks back to the 1800's, Current and past minor league stadiums, some foreign stadiums, college parks, and a calculator to make your own fictional parks.

Déjà Bru · 07-15-2014, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

This is a two part question. I want to recreate some indy league stadiums. I don't really care if the dimensions are right but I'd like the park factor to be right.

first question is do dimensions really matter in ootp or is it cosmetic? I would think that as long as park factors are correct, then you will see a proportionate amount of stats.

second question. I've never attempted to do park factors. How exactly do I figure it out? Does someone have a calculator for it? Thanks for your answers.

I am pretty sure that ballpark dimensions (distance to wall and wall height) do not affect game outcomes. As you surmised, ballpark factors govern. (Thanks to lukasberger for confirming this.)

As far as ballpark factors themselves, go to OOTPMODS.com, click the Ballparks tab, and download the 2013 Stadium Chart created and maintained by one Gambo (God bless him). In there, you will a tab labeled "Ballpark Generator." Have fun!

baseballonly · 07-15-2014, 10:30 PM

Well then, I'd like to see them work in OOTP16.

Déjà Bru · 07-15-2014, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baseballonly

Well then, I'd like to see them work in OOTP16.

How so? That is, do you imply that they do not work, and what makes you say so?

megamanmatt · 07-15-2014, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by baseballonly

Well then, I'd like to see them work in OOTP16.

I disagree....for now. The park factors are far more superior for obtaining the results desired. That said once 3D has been developed more then I could see that working.

megamanmatt · 07-15-2014, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

As far as ballpark factors themselves, go to OOTPMODS.com, click the Ballparks tab, and download the 2013 Stadium Chart created and maintained by one Gambo (God bless him). In there, you will a tab labeled "Ballpark Generator." Have fun!

My link trumps your link. I win the game of links you had no idea you were playing but were because I'm just annoying like that for example look at this run on sentence that has got to be annoying am I right? (Ha! It was a run on question! I got you again!)

RchW · 07-15-2014, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

I disagree....for now. The park factors are far more superior for obtaining the results desired. That said once 3D has been developed more then I could see that working.

What working? I seem to be missing a key word or sentence.

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Originally Posted by baseballonly

Well then, I'd like to see them work in OOTP16.

What?

megamanmatt · 07-15-2014, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

What working? I seem to be missing a key word or sentence.

Now I'm confused.

Gambo · 07-17-2014, 03:31 PM

Now now guys...no need to fight over little old me.

rpriske · 07-17-2014, 03:34 PM

If the dimensions count then they woudl be double counted because the park factor already is affected by the dimensions. You don't want such things counted twice.

Gambo · 07-17-2014, 03:48 PM

The park factors determine the likelyhood of an event happening in the ballpark. I.e. determining that John hit a HR or a Fly out. The ballpark dimensions are currently cosmetic simply telling us a story about that HR or fly out. I.e. John's homer went 410 feet or johns homer went 250 feet. (For the flyout it would just use "the fence" as a descriptor disregarding dimensions.

eriqjaffe · 07-17-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambo

The park factors determine the likelyhood of an event happening in the ballpark. I.e. determining that John hit a HR or a Fly out. The ballpark dimensions are currently cosmetic simply telling us a story about that HR or fly out. I.e. John's homer went 410 feet or johns homer went 250 feet. (For the flyout it would just use "the fence" as a descriptor disregarding dimensions.

That being said, it would be really nice if OOTP offered the optional ability to calculate park factors based on manually input dimensions. If it could be done in a spreadsheet, I can't imagine that OOTP couldn't do it.

jpeters1734 · 07-17-2014, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

That being said, it would be really nice if OOTP offered the optional ability to calculate park factors based on manually input dimensions. If it could be done in a spreadsheet, I can't imagine that OOTP couldn't do it.

Agreed!

07-15-2014, 10:20 PM	#1
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,311	Do dimensions matter in the sim or just park factor? This is a two part question. I want to recreate some indy league stadiums. I don't really care if the dimensions are right but I'd like the park factor to be right. first question is do dimensions really matter in ootp or is it cosmetic? I would think that as long as park factors are correct, then you will see a proportionate amount of stats. second question. I've never attempted to do park factors. How exactly do I figure it out? Does someone have a calculator for it? Thanks for your answers.

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Gambo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,388	The park factors determine the likelyhood of an event happening in the ballpark. I.e. determining that John hit a HR or a Fly out. The ballpark dimensions are currently cosmetic simply telling us a story about that HR or fly out. I.e. John's homer went 410 feet or johns homer went 250 feet. (For the flyout it would just use "the fence" as a descriptor disregarding dimensions. __________________ *Give me league evolution with historical imports!!!* OOTP MODS: Historical Face Gen Project, Spritze/Gambo Database, OOTP Stadium Chart and Ballpark Images, MLB Compiled Uniform & Logo Pack available at... http://www.ootpmods.com