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OOTP 15 - General Discussions Discuss the new 2014 version of Out of the Park Baseball here! |
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Join Date: Apr 2014
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Lots of teams in my league have MR's as closers....
Just as it says above, I have some teams in my fantasy draft/season league that don't have an actual closer on them but several MR's. And there is one team which has two bonafide closers in Rafael Soriano and Grant Balfour but uses them both as the setup guys for another guy who is usually a MR to close out games. I really wonder the AI differentiates who can be a closer and who is a setup guy?? Has anyone else run into this before?? I mean, unless you have an Aroldis Chapman, Craig Kimbrel, or Kenley Jansen on your team then you probably have a MR set as your closer. What's up with that??
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To the AI, players are just a collection of stats and ratings. It doesn't recognize names. It has no idea what a "bonafide closer" is. In this, it is smarter than most real life managers. It still tries to put the best reliever in the closer role, but it doesn't really care about who has been a closer in the past.
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Good point, but you would think that more often than not your best reliever is going to be the closer rather than a MR or a setup guy. And a lot of times the "best reliever" if you sim a month or so into the season will have a much higher ERA/WHIP K/BB ratio than your middle relief guys will. It's just something I've noticed since I'm about a month and a 1/2 into my first season so far. |
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Just because a guy's tagged with the Closer position doesn't make him automatically better than a MR at the same level. I do wish the AI changed the position of whoever has the closer ROLE to closer and all the others to MR, just for consistency's sake, but I consider them all "RP" anyway. I wish the game did too, since "closer" and "middle relief" aren't really positions anyway.
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Some major league teams this year have MR as closers.
And we are just past one month into real life.
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The AI knows numbers, not names. It doesn't know who's been a closer in the past.
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What needs to be fixed is the PLAYER STRATEGY function...and I will stomp my feet, ignore any reasonable response and be downright ornery for 8 pages in this thread....
Because apparently that is how things get fixed around here...and THIS needs fixing If I am IN Commish mode, and I go into player strategy and make up for a dumb AI decision and FORCE START a reliever as closer or SP, he better damn well be the closer or SP. It sort of works for position players, but if you put in say...Rey Orndonez forced start at SS even if the MGR and GM LOVE defense, his offense is so bad the backup will start every 2nd game...making the force start obsolete. Yea, Managers need to change their league settings to closer used Normally and relievers used often I've seen 8 instances of a P rolling along this year, get pulled in the 8th inning for the sake of "The Closer" who almost or did end up losing the game. Last edited by Carlton; 05-06-2014 at 08:40 AM. |
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"I" need this fixed ![]() STOMP,STOMP,STOMP ![]() In all seriosuness, it HAS been 3 versions now, and this 'feature' is still broken, WE need this done in a patch for THIS version
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That bastard Snow. LOL_
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Just to throw another bit of controversy into this mix....
Closing is overrated. You want your best guy to put out fires, not come in at the end of a game where you have like an 85% chance of winning with a normal guy on the mound. |
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1.) It's no coincidence Ruben Amaro rhymes with ruin tomorrow. 2.) Nobody's been better at closing out games than the Mets' closers. Problem is, they're closing the door on their own team (said the disgruntled Mets fan). |
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