Local Popularity

Fyrestorm3 · 02-06-2014, 03:13 AM

While "National Popularity" is fairly straightforward, "Local Popularity" is a bit ambiguous. I'm currently going through my league and fixing the popularity ratings for a few players, and I'm left wondering: does Local Popularity refer to how the player is viewed in the city in which he plays (local for HIM), or in the city of the team you control (local for YOU)?

I ran a search, found a couple threads on the subject, but each one had conflicting answers. Anyone know for certain?

Bluenoser · 02-06-2014, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

While "National Popularity" is fairly straightforward, "Local Popularity" is a bit ambiguous. I'm currently going through my league and fixing the popularity ratings for a few players, and I'm left wondering: does Local Popularity refer to how the player is viewed in the city in which he plays (local for HIM), or in the city of the team you control (local for YOU)?

I ran a search, found a couple threads on the subject, but each one had conflicting answers. Anyone know for certain?

You're confusing me here,

If he plays for you, then the city he plays in and city of the team you control are the same right?

Anyway, it's always been my understanding that it's the team he plays for. eg: Prince Fielder was very popular in Detroit and not as popular in Texas. He's a lot more popular in Texas now that he plays for them. I'm sure he is still popular in Detroit, but that popularity will begin to decline now.

Mikex5 · 02-06-2014, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

While "National Popularity" is fairly straightforward, "Local Popularity" is a bit ambiguous. I'm currently going through my league and fixing the popularity ratings for a few players, and I'm left wondering: does Local Popularity refer to how the player is viewed in the city in which he plays (local for HIM), or in the city of the team you control (local for YOU)?

I ran a search, found a couple threads on the subject, but each one had conflicting answers. Anyone know for certain?

Local popularity refers to the city he plays in. You can test this by trading a locally popular player. Your fans will react negatively.

Lukas Berger · 02-06-2014, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluenoser

If he plays for you, then the city he plays in and city of the team you control are the same right?

Fyrestorm didn't say anything about the player playing for him. So no the cities a player plays in and the city of the team you control aren't the same for players on other teams than the human controlled team.

le receveur · 02-06-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikex5

Local popularity refers to the city he plays in. You can test this by trading a locally popular player. Your fans will react negatively.

so why do free agents have local popularity.

I have just traded for guys who was rated has highly popular locally on a different continent. My fans were indifferent when we traded for him, and we got not reaction. his local now says indifferent

BIG17EASY · 02-06-2014, 10:18 AM

Good question. I always assumed it referred to the city your team is in. So if I was looking to trade for a guy who has high local popularity, I always assumed that would make my fans happy.

David Watts · 02-06-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Good question. I always assumed it referred to the city your team is in. So if I was looking to trade for a guy who has high local popularity, I always assumed that would make my fans happy.

I assumed the opposite. I thought it referred to a guy being a fan favorite for the team he is currently playing for. Example, the fans in San Francisco loved Barry Bonds. Fans elsewhere, not so much.

BIG17EASY · 02-06-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

I assumed the opposite. I thought it referred to a guy being a fan favorite for the team he is currently playing for. Example, the fans in San Francisco loved Barry Bonds. Fans elsewhere, not so much.

And I can easily see how it would work that way, too. That's why I'm hoping someone can answer this definitively.

Bluenoser · 02-06-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by le receveur

so why do free agents have local popularity.

I have just traded for guys who was rated has highly popular locally on a different continent. My fans were indifferent when we traded for him, and we got not reaction. his local now says indifferent

Just guessing here, but I think FA's have local popularity to show you, as an interested GM, that he was or wasn't popular with his last team.

That seems to fit with this scenario, and if he does well I would expect his local popularity to change as time passes.

I often wonder if there's something in the code that would account for a player who gets involved locally too, such as with charities, fund raisers, etc. Something that we don't really see, but would make perfect sense to include.

le receveur · 02-06-2014, 11:06 AM

now i'm wondering about National Popularity.... If Brett Lawrie, with High National popularity is traded to the Marlins, does he become an unknown?

would love to hear from The Game, what happens when Tatooine trades for someone from another planet

Carlton · 02-06-2014, 11:33 AM

Now here is a question...

See how I built that up?

That wasn't the ?, this is...

How does a player become hated and unpopular?

Cryomaniac · 02-06-2014, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlton

How does a player become hated and unpopular?

IIRC the only way to become Disliked is for a player to get a PED suspension, unless there are storylines that can do it.

The Game · 02-06-2014, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlton

Now here is a question...

See how I built that up?

That wasn't the ?, this is...

How does a player become hated and unpopular?

What Cryo said, Sterling Thomas was suspended for 50 games last year for PED's.

Fyrestorm3 · 02-06-2014, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

IIRC the only way to become Disliked is for a player to get a PED suspension, unless there are storylines that can do it.

I'm fairly certain that playing poorly can ultimately lead to a guy becoming "Unknown" again, but the only way to become "Disliked" is a PED suspension (which is admittedly a nice touch). I haven't yet seen a storyline that causes a guy's popularity to drop that far.

Which is why I have this question in the first place - there's a couple of guys in my league that my team/fans would absolutely hate, due to playoff performances against us, being arrogant, etc. If "Local Popularity" refers to my team's city, I want to make them disliked locally. But, if "Local Popularity" refers to each specific player's city, I'm planning on taking a guy who was suspended last year for PEDs and making him locally accepted (since he's a superstar, he'd be hated nationally, but still cheered for by his hometown fans).

jaysdailydose · 02-06-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluenoser

I'm sure he is still popular in Detroit, but that popularity will begin to decline now.

Actually, the majority of the fan base can't stand Fielder now, especially after the comments immediately after the LCS... your point is still well-taken, but we REALLY aren't Prince fans for the most part in the D, not anymore.

Fyrestorm3 · 02-06-2014, 01:49 PM

Okay, local popularity is based upon the city the player is currently playing in.

Ran a test: locked a player's popularity at "Unknown" locally and "Extremely Popular" nationally. Traded for him, and the fans were ecstatic. Traded him away immediately afterwards, and no one cared. It was kind of funny.

But at least that answers that question.

le receveur · 02-06-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

Okay, local popularity is based upon the city the player is currently playing in.

Ran a test: locked a player's popularity at "Unknown" locally and "Extremely Popular" nationally. Traded for him, and the fans were ecstatic. Traded him away immediately afterwards, and no one cared. It was kind of funny.

But at least that answers that question.

were you in same country as original team? still curious about the Nationally

Bluenoser · 02-06-2014, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jaysdailydose

Actually, the majority of the fan base can't stand Fielder now, especially after the comments immediately after the LCS... your point is still well-taken, but we REALLY aren't Prince fans for the most part in the D, not anymore.

Ya, Prince was probably a poor example. First one I could think of

Tks for the update.

BIG17EASY · 02-06-2014, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

Okay, local popularity is based upon the city the player is currently playing in.

Ran a test: locked a player's popularity at "Unknown" locally and "Extremely Popular" nationally. Traded for him, and the fans were ecstatic. Traded him away immediately afterwards, and no one cared. It was kind of funny.

But at least that answers that question.

Actually, that's kind of disappointing to see. If you trade away a player who's popular nationally, your fans should be disappointed.

JohnHoward · 02-06-2014, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

Traded for him, and the fans were ecstatic. Traded him away immediately afterwards, and no one cared. It was kind of funny.

Dan Uggla, if the Braves can trade him.

02-06-2014, 03:13 AM	#1
Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	Local Popularity While "National Popularity" is fairly straightforward, "Local Popularity" is a bit ambiguous. I'm currently going through my league and fixing the popularity ratings for a few players, and I'm left wondering: does Local Popularity refer to how the player is viewed in the city in which he plays (local for HIM), or in the city of the team you control (local for YOU)? I ran a search, found a couple threads on the subject, but each one had conflicting answers. Anyone know for certain?

02-06-2014, 11:33 AM	#11
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	Now here is a question... See how I built that up? That wasn't the ?, this is... How does a player become hated and unpopular? __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

02-06-2014, 10:18 AM	#6
BIG17EASY Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,291	Good question. I always assumed it referred to the city your team is in. So if I was looking to trade for a guy who has high local popularity, I always assumed that would make my fans happy.

02-06-2014, 11:06 AM	#10
le receveur All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: canada Posts: 1,736	now i'm wondering about National Popularity.... If Brett Lawrie, with High National popularity is traded to the Marlins, does he become an unknown? would love to hear from The Game, what happens when Tatooine trades for someone from another planet

02-06-2014, 01:49 PM	#16
Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	Okay, local popularity is based upon the city the player is currently playing in. Ran a test: locked a player's popularity at "Unknown" locally and "Extremely Popular" nationally. Traded for him, and the fans were ecstatic. Traded him away immediately afterwards, and no one cared. It was kind of funny. But at least that answers that question.