Patch 1.3.13: Historic Mode still useless

[jh95]

Did not change very much with 1.3.13. The historic mode is still useless:

- Trade deadline is not updated with a new season, it always stays on the date of the first season

- Player ratings are not changing over seasons. It seems that they are not improving or decreasing. Somethings wrong here!

- Draft picks acquired in trades are not used in the next draft. Every team has its original number of picks

- Players exist as non-draftable and non-signeable free agents, e.g. B.Clark when I start in 1967-68

- No scouting possible

- Expansion drafts: In an expansion draft with two new teams one team cannot loose more than 2 players. That is how it was in reality. There were different rules for each draft (which can be e.g. retrieved from Wikipedia). I lost 5 players in the 1990-91 Expansion Draft to San Jose

- The Entry Draft is also bugging me. Players are drafted after potential, e.g. Niklas Lidstrom 1st overall in 1990. It should be rather that teams draft like it would be historically correct (e.g. by using the NHL Draft Rankings). Then N. Lidstrom would go in the second round....

I am only interested in the "Historic Mode". So for me this game is up to now plain and simple "boring".

The developers should have taken at look at "GM Hockey Legacy".
It is historically correct and you can play seasons starting from 1979-80.
They ran into trouble with their license-provider and now you cannot install your game. But when it is fixed I will definitely try this one again.
I will wait for FHM 2015. Maybe then the "Historic Mode" can be really called a "Historic Mode".

Why can't they repair "Disabled List" in OOTP?! In reality there were DL lists for 10, 21 and 30 days, and for a number of years there were more than just two lists. It destroys realism in OOTP (version 14!).

[tward13]

Originally Posted by jh95

Did not change very much with 1.3.13. The historic mode is still useless:

- Trade deadline is not updated with a new season, it always stays on the date of the first season

- Player ratings are not changing over seasons. It seems that they are not improving or decreasing. Somethings wrong here!

- Draft picks acquired in trades are not used in the next draft. Every team has its original number of picks

- Players exist as non-draftable and non-signeable free agents, e.g. B.Clark when I start in 1967-68

- No scouting possible

- Expansion drafts: In an expansion draft with two new teams one team cannot loose more than 2 players. That is how it was in reality. There were different rules for each draft (which can be e.g. retrieved from Wikipedia). I lost 5 players in the 1990-91 Expansion Draft to San Jose

- The Entry Draft is also bugging me. Players are drafted after potential, e.g. Niklas Lidstrom 1st overall in 1990. It should be rather that teams draft like it would be historically correct (e.g. by using the NHL Draft Rankings). Then N. Lidstrom would go in the second round....

I am only interested in the "Historic Mode". So for me this game is up to now plain and simple "boring".

The developers should have taken at look at "GM Hockey Legacy".
It is historically correct and you can play seasons starting from 1979-80.
They ran into trouble with their license-provider and now you cannot install your game. But when it is fixed I will definitely try this one again.
I will wait for FHM 2015. Maybe then the "Historic Mode" can be really called a "Historic Mode".

I'm assuming these were posted previously in the bugs thread?

[jh95]

Just wanted to make sure the issues are not lost in the "sea" of bugs!

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by jh95

- The Entry Draft is also bugging me. Players are drafted after potential, e.g. Niklas Lidstrom 1st overall in 1990. It should be rather that teams draft like it would be historically correct (e.g. by using the NHL Draft Rankings). Then N. Lidstrom would go in the second round....

I agree with most of your comments.

I think the issue with this one though, is that if things worked how you suggest, then a human player would always get the best players and would have a dynasty in every game, since they'd know how the players turned out and would draft according to their foreknowledge.

[dave1927p]

Originally Posted by lukasberger

I agree with most of your comments.

I think the issue with this one though, is that if things worked how you suggest, then a human player would always get the best players and would have a dynasty in every game, since they'd know how the players turned out and would draft according to their foreknowledge.

yes, that's exactly the reason. This was the intention.

Now within the last few months the developer can out and said that they have a way to make it come out more realistic to history. But I would not expect that anytime soon. We'd be lucky to get that in the first version but it is definitely something they are planning eventually.

I don't want to play in a world where Alex Diagle doesn't go first overall!

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by dave1927p

yes, that's exactly the reason. This was the intention.

Now within the last few months the developer can out and said that they have a way to make it come out more realistic to history. But I would not expect that anytime soon. We'd be lucky to get that in the first version but it is definitely something they are planning eventually.

I don't want to play in a world where Alex Diagle doesn't go first overall!

It'll mean quite a bit of database editing to get it working for every player, but in the shorter term I can at least get the major draft busts like Daigle, Stefan, Bonsignore, etc. to go higher than they normally would. There are a couple of other things I need to do with the historical database first, but once I'm adding guys who were drafted but never played (likely just first-round failures to begin with) that would be a logical time to adjust the other guys who were overrated at draft time as well.

[Wasserlasser]

Originally Posted by jh95

The developers should have taken at look at "GM Hockey Legacy".
It is historically correct and you can play seasons starting from 1979-80.
They ran into trouble with their license-provider and now you cannot install your game. But when it is fixed I will definitely try this one again.
I will wait for FHM 2015. Maybe then the "Historic Mode" can be really called a "Historic Mode".

Their new Version is online and can be tested now.

Wasserlasser