More playable leagues?

[Orioles1966]

Are there any plans for more playable leagues with version #1?


I would like too see the Swedish League that has 50 teams so I can turn it into a custom league because the max teams for any league at the present is 30 (I could be wrong).

[batdad]

God I hope not. Nothing new, just fix and make what is already there more interesting and fun. THen add the extras.

[BlackIce]

No offence to all these custom league folks who want to name theyre teams whatever they want and play on another planet. Can we let the developers first polish of the game and eliminate the handfuls upon handfuls of bugs before we have klingon players from galaxy nexus...

[Puckhead]

Originally Posted by batdad

God I hope not. Nothing new, just fix and make what is already there more interesting and fun. THen add the extras.

Yes, totally true. This discussion is pretty old, it started directly after the release and the problems/missing features in the custom league mode... I hope they just fix the problems/bugs/hiccups of the normal game mode to make sure that it's a solid game to build more features onto. I'm pretty sure that this will be the case one day.

And, of course, I also hope it's sooner than later.

[batdad]

What I personally hope is that the developer realizes...and hopefully it is not too late to realize it....but that it is basically ONE PERSON asking for the extra league abilities and the moon and custom league garbage, and that everyone else who has stuck it out and is active here....HOPING that the game improves and making a contribution of what is needed to be done....DOES NOT WANT the extra crap at this time.

Sure...in the future the extra crap is great. But for now it just needs to have a solid base. The custom league people are not active right now....

And yeah I know this post is going to bring them out in droves. But let us hope the developers and the OOTP gang all realize that doing stuff on that side of the game is AT BEST SECONDARY right now. Get the game workign the way the majority of customers would like to see it work...(accurate trading AI, useable interface, proper scouting, proper scoring and penalty results, proper roster management, proper financial management, proper drafts and PROPER BASIC HOCKEY prinicples) ....LONG before they develop more leagues and custom leagues and extra playable leagues, and SUPER POWER PLAYERS and points like in arcade games.

I hope hope hope that this is what they do at OOTP with this game. However, I am not sure they will...because in the past the custom guys would ask for pie in the sky crap, and a week later it was there (Or at least an attempt at this was). Whereas the people who just want normal hockey management stuff ARE STILL ASKING FOR THE SAME THINGS TO BE DEALT WITH that we were asking for on day 1.

[landru22]

Originally Posted by batdad

What I personally hope is that the developer realizes...and hopefully it is not too late to realize it....but that it is basically ONE PERSON asking for the extra league abilities and the moon and custom league garbage, and that everyone else who has stuck it out and is active here....HOPING that the game improves and making a contribution of what is needed to be done....DOES NOT WANT the extra crap at this time.

Sure...in the future the extra crap is great. But for now it just needs to have a solid base. The custom league people are not active right now....

And yeah I know this post is going to bring them out in droves. But let us hope the developers and the OOTP gang all realize that doing stuff on that side of the game is AT BEST SECONDARY right now. Get the game workign the way the majority of customers would like to see it work...(accurate trading AI, useable interface, proper scouting, proper scoring and penalty results, proper roster management, proper financial management, proper drafts and PROPER BASIC HOCKEY prinicples) ....LONG before they develop more leagues and custom leagues and extra playable leagues, and SUPER POWER PLAYERS and points like in arcade games.

I hope hope hope that this is what they do at OOTP with this game. However, I am not sure they will...because in the past the custom guys would ask for pie in the sky crap, and a week later it was there (Or at least an attempt at this was). Whereas the people who just want normal hockey management stuff ARE STILL ASKING FOR THE SAME THINGS TO BE DEALT WITH that we were asking for on day 1.

I can assure there is more than one person interested in custom leagues. Although I agree that they probably should have concentrated first on just the NHL, the cat is already out of the bag, Honestly, I don't think I would have bought the product if the NHL was all that was offered. I'm sorry if my interest in custom leagues offends you, but I have been wanting OOTP for hockey for a VERY long time. I have spent nearly two months editing my league and still have to wait to begin my season because the last patch screwed up custom league AI trading (there is none).

[batdad]

Again...I get that people want custom stuff. Just saying...asking for MORE custom stuff, and MORE things that are not there already added in....makes no sense when the game does not even work properly in THE MOST BASIC MODE>

BAsically the in game engine appears to be a RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR that only generates even numbers and allows for goals 0 seconds apart. And has descriptions about faceoffs and shots.

The basics are not there, and people are asking to work on adding Swedish Elite League? What is the point in that...so you can see some guy with a Swedish name have his number generated randomly>

Count on custom lovers not happy with what I said.... ONE and ongoing I am sure.

[Duranium]

My priority would be to fix all bugs in historical mode first but the real important thing for the devs right now is fixing all the small basic gameplay glitches first.
From there they can build on a solid foundation and i´m pretty sure with time we all will get our favourite gimmicks in the various modes this cool game offers.
In the meantime - back to continuing my Historical Photopack Vol. 1975

[pens66]

@batdad: There were lots of people who were at least surprised (I was shocked and dissapointed) that there were no plans for fictional leagues in the initial stages of development of FHM.
It is the one thing that would have set FHM apart from EHM... (don't about historical, EHM had that thanks to me and others)

I still think it would have been the more easier way to start with a custom mode and then build the real hockey world on top of that. You would need to code every possible rule anyway. So just do it and then build your leagues with it.
FHM was advertised as being flexible, editable, nothing was supposed to be hardcoded. As of right now it looks like the whole game engine (in-game and off-ice stuff) is not flexible at all. Nice example: The game can't even create an appropriate player pool for your "custom league". It just takes the real NHL players, renames them, adds a little variation to the attributes and throws them into the game world. So you have 30 teams full of players, even if you only have a six team league.
Take a guess why we can't edit the structures of existing leagues! My guess: The game can't handle it at all. As of right now every schedule is pre-set and never changes. You add a team or switch a division and puuufff.

Oh, just to make that clear: I'm not actually "lobbying" for full customization at this point. I'd rather they sort out the balancing issues and downright stupid things in the modern mode, before they fiddle around with the custom mode again.

btw: Stop with your "moon" stuff. Doesn't make you look good at all.

[m0fownz0r]

Originally Posted by pens66

@batdad: There were lots of people who were at least surprised (I was shocked and dissapointed) that there were no plans for fictional leagues in the initial stages of development of FHM.
It is the one thing that would have set FHM apart from EHM... (don't about historical, EHM had that thanks to me and others)

I still think it would have been the more easier way to start with a custom mode and then build the real hockey world on top of that. You would need to code every possible rule anyway. So just do it and then build your leagues with it.
FHM was advertised as being flexible, editable, nothing was supposed to be hardcoded. As of right now it looks like the whole game engine (in-game and off-ice stuff) is not flexible at all. Nice example: The game can't even create an appropriate player pool for your "custom league". It just takes the real NHL players, renames them, adds a little variation to the attributes and throws them into the game world. So you have 30 teams full of players, even if you only have a six team league.
Take a guess why we can't edit the structures of existing leagues! My guess: The game can't handle it at all. As of right now every schedule is pre-set and never changes. You add a team or switch a division and puuufff.

Oh, just to make that clear: I'm not actually "lobbying" for full customization at this point. I'd rather they sort out the balancing issues and downright stupid things in the modern mode, before they fiddle around with the custom mode again.

btw: Stop with your "moon" stuff. Doesn't make you look good at all.

Yet he is absolutely right. This *game* is an overpriced beta at this point, several months after official release. It;s falsely advertised, on the front page at that - "THE MOST COMPLETE HOCKEY GAME EVER" and so on. This game has nothing, even remotely close resembling "the deepest, most immersive, and most customizable hockey management game in the world". I'll just stick with EHM for the foreseeable future as this is years away, if ever, going to top the the most complete hockey game ever as of now - Eastside Hockey Manager.

[Germaniac]

As far as I'm concerned this game is a huge disappointment ... just as m0fownz0r said, most of the promised features are nowhere to be found.

Fictional leagues ... no

Online play (should have been included in the first or second patch in October) ... no

All major European and American leagues playable ... no

That along with a lot of basic bugs, 3 months after the official release, 9 months after the start of beta testing ...

Basically this still is beta testing, only with paying customers ...

[sprague]

How about they try to get one playable realistic league
If that ever happens, then they can try for two-

They have already turned off a large portion of what should be a key customer base, and the fate of the game hinges on something right happening.

But its been over a year since the first open beta process and they can't even get goals and assists right...so don't expect much.

[TheAlaskan]

I don't find the game to be a disappointment... I'm about six years into GMing the Red Deer Rebels. It's been fun to draft players out of bantams and try to help them reach their digital dreams of being in a digital NHL.

A few things I'd like to see...

1) Add more personality to the players; have them demand trades, voice concerns, etc. Anything that can create a bit of a storyline.

2) Under available jobs, it seems that you can pretty much work for whatever team you want.

3) Better info on an NHL team's plan for a player; I dont know if the player drafted gets called up unless I go to their profile page, however, I am notified when they're sent back.

4) Notification when ANY injury is recovered from; you get notice if you put them on the injury list, but sometimes I scratch a player for a short term injury and forget to put them back in after they've healed I guess that's more on me.

5) For junior teams, does being on the reserve roster mean that that player won't be playing any hockey at all? Not even for a lower junior league? If they are playing for a junior b league while on reserve for the junior A team, shouldn't their junior b stats populate in their profile?

Thanks for the game!

[Duranium]

Originally Posted by Germaniac

As far as I'm concerned this game is a huge disappointment ... just as m0fownz0r said, most of the promised features are nowhere to be found.

Fictional leagues ... no

Online play (should have been included in the first or second patch in October) ... no

All major European and American leagues playable ... no

That along with a lot of basic bugs, 3 months after the official release, 9 months after the start of beta testing ...

Basically this still is beta testing, only with paying customers ...

you belong to a group of gamers who always try to find hairs in the soup...

Don´t get me wrong , there are still maaaaaany bugs in the game but it´s by no way unplayable, works realtively stable and i for myself till enjoy this -as you called it- Beta-version.

Dude, you´re paying €30 and expect a flawless product after 3 months (and no, Beta testing is not included, that´s why it´s called 'testing') developed by, if i got this right, a 2!! man development team.

I believe in the potential this game has and i won´t starve of hunger after paying €30 (and again, 30, not €300) for a not-ready-developed but fun game with huuuge potential. So i pay my due that they can continue working on the game and someday soon can offer the equivalent of that Baseball game where everyone seems to go ga-ga about.

I also read that the premier version of the Baseball game was close to rubbish and look where it´s now , but to each it´s own

I will continue to support & promote the game

[geckon]

The same thing all over and over again... It's completely natural that some people want something and other people want something else. That's normal. But could we please stop posting things like "this feature is completely basic, I can't understand why the developers ignore this fact" or "focus on this, not on the other crap/garbage".

Please don't insult each other, let's cooperate, let's suggest our ideas and let the devs pick what to implement when. Let's trust them.

And I need to mention what everyone here seems to overlook... Adding additional playable leagues is not work for developers. It takes time from researchers (different people).