New League Forming

ram · 02-07-2003, 11:08 PM

The American Baseball Federation (name subject to change) is a new league forming across The United States, Canada, and Puerto Rico. The league is fictional with 2 leagues, 3 divisions, 4 teams in each division giving a total of 24 teams. Team cities are undecided and may be chosen by the owners from the list below. Owners will also be able to build their stadiums and sell name rights. If interested in becoming a owner leave a message below or send an email to me. A web site will be created when enough interest is shown.

Washington D.C.
San Jose
Dallas
Houston
San Juan (PR)
Portland
Vancouver
Sacramento
Orlando
Indianapolis
Norfolk
Las Vegas
Columbus
Charlotte
New Orleans
Salt Lake City
Greensboro-Winston
Austin
Nashville
Providence
Raleigh
Hartford
Buffalo - Niagara Falls
Memphis
Jacksonville
Rochester
Grand Rapids
Oklahoma City
Ottawa - Hull
Louisville
Richmond
Greenville
Calgary (CA)
Dayton
Fresno
Birmingham
Honolulu
Edmonton (CA)
Albany
Tucson
Tulsa
Syracuse
Omaha
Albuquerque
Knoxville
El Paso
Bakersfield
Quebec (CA)
Winnipeg (CA)
Hamilton (CA)
Allentown
Harrisburg
Scranton
Toledo
Baton Rouge
Youngstown
Springfield
Sarasota
Little Rock
Charleston
Wichita
Mobile
Columbia
Colorado Springs
Fort Wayne
Daytona Beach
Lakeland - Winter Haven
Lexington
Augusta
Lancaster

ram · 02-08-2003, 12:00 PM

The rules pages is now up.

goroyals · 02-08-2003, 01:04 PM

Ahh, my home of Lexington is a possible city choice! That alone may cause me to join!

vyacheslavkozlovfan · 02-08-2003, 02:14 PM

Just wondering, will this league be switching to ootp5 relatively quickly?

ram · 02-08-2003, 03:01 PM

The league will most likely switch to OOTP5 after the first or second season depending on league owners.

ram · 02-08-2003, 03:04 PM

goroyals do you want to join as Lexington?

goroyals · 02-08-2003, 06:37 PM

Sure, I am willing to accept having an almost non existient team market if it is for my hometown. I will keep my eyes peeled and be ready whenever we start.

Stashu · 02-08-2003, 08:34 PM

How many u got so far Ram?

I'd be interested in Buffalo(if we can drop the Niagara Falls bit...) if it looks like the league has legs.

ram · 02-08-2003, 09:02 PM

Statshu you can have Buffalo. Goroyals and Statshu I am going to need a nickname for your teams. So far I have 6 not included me in the league and a few who are interested who have not taken a team. I will post the cities taken later when a few people get back to me what city they want.

PCline26 · 02-08-2003, 10:38 PM

Greensboro-Winston, good lord man, dump that crap whole called Winston. Stick with Greensboro.

PCline26 · 02-08-2003, 10:39 PM

I'll join if you let me get rid of Winston-Salem? lol

ram · 02-08-2003, 10:41 PM

PCline you can join as Greensboro. Now I need a nickname for the team.

PCline26 · 02-08-2003, 11:00 PM

Hmm, the Greensboro Legends? Right now that's all I can come up with, I'd go with Greensboro Generals except that's the ECHL hockey team lol.

autarkis33 · 02-09-2003, 12:18 AM

Dude.

I appreciate mimicry, but when you take my words and claim them as your own, that is going a bit too far.

I understand that many online leagues use the same rules, but you do not have permission to copy my work.

<A HREF="http://bapl-ootp.tripod.com/rules.htm">Here</A> are the rules for the BPLA. You will notice that several spots within my rules and yours are word for word copies.

I don't care that you used my league as inspiration. I did the same thing when starting the BPLA. But I never copied the work of others. Did you think I would never find out?

I would never actively dissuade others from joining someone else's league. But if someone is capable of this, who knows what else they would do.

I believe an apology is in order.

JAttractive · 02-09-2003, 03:30 AM

That was too much

Sorry I had to laugh...

LivnLegend · 02-09-2003, 03:33 AM

I realize many rules are going to be similar between leagues and leagues use others for inspiration but an email asking for permission seems to be the minimum courtesy. I have had a few new leagues email me about "borrowing" rules from the USBA. I have no problem with it and it can help forge good relations with other commissioners.

PCline26 · 02-09-2003, 05:33 AM

Dude I hate to be the oddball here, but owners really don't have to ask your opinion to use that. You don't have a copyright notice on there so it's public domain. Getting upset over something you didn't even protect or claim as your own won't do you a thing.

I've dealt with this in the past, but I didn't mind anyonoe using my constitution because it was my own fault. Then if someone violated my copyright, then they're in some hot water...

satchel · 02-09-2003, 06:22 AM

I don’t know copyright law, but it seems rude to copy without telling its author, whether or not they asked permission. But it is flattering. The ABF did amend the rules; about 30% look different.

goroyals · 02-09-2003, 09:10 AM

I don't know aout joining now, the rules do look awful similar. Check the BPLA's rules on stadiums then check the ABF's.

I really want to join ram, but being in the BPLA, were several ideas seem to come from, I wish you would have asked before hand to see if it was acceptable.

caleb1740 · 02-09-2003, 10:57 AM

will there be an initial draft?

02-07-2003, 11:08 PM	#1
ram Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 26	New League Forming The American Baseball Federation (name subject to change) is a new league forming across The United States, Canada, and Puerto Rico. The league is fictional with 2 leagues, 3 divisions, 4 teams in each division giving a total of 24 teams. Team cities are undecided and may be chosen by the owners from the list below. Owners will also be able to build their stadiums and sell name rights. If interested in becoming a owner leave a message below or send an email to me. A web site will be created when enough interest is shown. Washington D.C. San Jose Dallas Houston San Juan (PR) Portland Vancouver Sacramento Orlando Indianapolis Norfolk Las Vegas Columbus Charlotte New Orleans Salt Lake City Greensboro-Winston Austin Nashville Providence Raleigh Hartford Buffalo - Niagara Falls Memphis Jacksonville Rochester Grand Rapids Oklahoma City Ottawa - Hull Louisville Richmond Greenville Calgary (CA) Dayton Fresno Birmingham Honolulu Edmonton (CA) Albany Tucson Tulsa Syracuse Omaha Albuquerque Knoxville El Paso Bakersfield Quebec (CA) Winnipeg (CA) Hamilton (CA) Allentown Harrisburg Scranton Toledo Baton Rouge Youngstown Springfield Sarasota Little Rock Charleston Wichita Mobile Columbia Colorado Springs Fort Wayne Daytona Beach Lakeland - Winter Haven Lexington Augusta Lancaster

02-08-2003, 02:14 PM	#4
vyacheslavkozlovfan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: my computer chair Posts: 86	Just wondering, will this league be switching to ootp5 relatively quickly? __________________ BL2 DC Coalition

02-09-2003, 12:18 AM	#14
autarkis33 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 247	copyright BPLA Dude. I appreciate mimicry, but when you take my words and claim them as your own, that is going a bit too far. I understand that many online leagues use the same rules, but you do not have permission to copy my work. <A HREF="http://bapl-ootp.tripod.com/rules.htm">Here</A> are the rules for the BPLA. You will notice that several spots within my rules and yours are word for word copies. I don't care that you used my league as inspiration. I did the same thing when starting the BPLA. But I never copied the work of others. Did you think I would never find out? I would never actively dissuade others from joining someone else's league. But if someone is capable of this, who knows what else they would do. I believe an apology is in order. __________________ "I'm not crazy, I'm just a little unwell" Commissioner of the <A HREF="http://www.bpla-ootp.com">BPLA</A> GM of the Iowa Crop Circles in <A HREF="http://www.dpbl.net/potd">POTD</A> Manager of the Lennongrad Coleopteras in <A HREF="http://beta.simleagues.com">Beta Baseball</A> Only HOF Leftfielder in LBL - 2nd career AVG, 3B's and SB's - 3rd in Hits and HR's

02-09-2003, 03:33 AM	#16
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	I realize many rules are going to be similar between leagues and leagues use others for inspiration but an email asking for permission seems to be the minimum courtesy. I have had a few new leagues email me about "borrowing" rules from the USBA. I have no problem with it and it can help forge good relations with other commissioners. __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling. Last edited by LivnLegend; 02-10-2003 at 01:32 AM.

02-09-2003, 06:22 AM	#18
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith Ark. USA Posts: 2,681	feelings I don’t know copyright law, but it seems rude to copy without telling its author, whether or not they asked permission. But it is flattering. The ABF did amend the rules; about 30% look different. __________________ JL Commish NPBL Rhode Island Reds ’33 ’34 ’35 TCBA San Francisco Railbornes ’74 ’76 ’77 ’78 FL New Orleans Black Sox ’56 ’57 ’58 ’59

02-08-2003, 12:00 PM	#2
ram Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 26	The rules pages is now up.

02-08-2003, 01:04 PM	#3
goroyals All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 930	Ahh, my home of Lexington is a possible city choice! That alone may cause me to join!

02-08-2003, 03:01 PM	#5
ram Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 26	The league will most likely switch to OOTP5 after the first or second season depending on league owners.

02-08-2003, 03:04 PM	#6
ram Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 26	goroyals do you want to join as Lexington?

02-08-2003, 06:37 PM	#7
goroyals All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 930	Sure, I am willing to accept having an almost non existient team market if it is for my hometown. I will keep my eyes peeled and be ready whenever we start.

02-08-2003, 08:34 PM	#8
Stashu Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 177	How many u got so far Ram? I'd be interested in Buffalo(if we can drop the Niagara Falls bit...) if it looks like the league has legs.

02-08-2003, 09:02 PM	#9
ram Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 26	Statshu you can have Buffalo. Goroyals and Statshu I am going to need a nickname for your teams. So far I have 6 not included me in the league and a few who are interested who have not taken a team. I will post the cities taken later when a few people get back to me what city they want.

02-08-2003, 10:38 PM	#10
PCline26 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NC Posts: 658	Greensboro-Winston, good lord man, dump that crap whole called Winston. Stick with Greensboro.

02-08-2003, 10:39 PM	#11
PCline26 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NC Posts: 658	I'll join if you let me get rid of Winston-Salem? lol

02-08-2003, 10:41 PM	#12
ram Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 26	PCline you can join as Greensboro. Now I need a nickname for the team.

02-08-2003, 11:00 PM	#13
PCline26 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NC Posts: 658	Hmm, the Greensboro Legends? Right now that's all I can come up with, I'd go with Greensboro Generals except that's the ECHL hockey team lol.

02-09-2003, 03:30 AM	#15
JAttractive All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Catharines, Ontario Posts: 1,135	That was too much Sorry I had to laugh...

02-09-2003, 05:33 AM	#17
PCline26 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NC Posts: 658	Dude I hate to be the oddball here, but owners really don't have to ask your opinion to use that. You don't have a copyright notice on there so it's public domain. Getting upset over something you didn't even protect or claim as your own won't do you a thing. I've dealt with this in the past, but I didn't mind anyonoe using my constitution because it was my own fault. Then if someone violated my copyright, then they're in some hot water...

02-09-2003, 09:10 AM	#19
goroyals All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 930	I don't know aout joining now, the rules do look awful similar. Check the BPLA's rules on stadiums then check the ABF's. I really want to join ram, but being in the BPLA, were several ideas seem to come from, I wish you would have asked before hand to see if it was acceptable.

02-09-2003, 10:57 AM	#20
caleb1740 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 57	will there be an initial draft? __________________ Willie Dean - 17.7ppg, 5.2rb, 2.5as, 1.7st 1st team all Big-10