Trade Advice

PSUColonel · 08-29-2013, 12:24 AM

I have rollins signed for a couple of more years (thanks Amaro) and so I am willing to potentially trade my best prospect SS Quinn for a great 3B prospect. Here is what I have in mind. SS Quinn (A), SP Biddle (AA), and 2B Tolbert (AAA) I am attempting to trade for 3B Rendon (AAA)

So, Here it begins:

I give:

PSUColonel · 08-29-2013, 12:25 AM

They Give:

PSUColonel · 08-29-2013, 12:28 AM

Now obviously the main players in the deal are Quinn and Rendon (and to a lesser extent Biddle)

So here are the major comparisons:

PSUColonel · 08-29-2013, 12:48 AM

I do have this 3B waiting in the wings, but not likely for next season (young's contract will expire) I even signed Scott Rolen as a backup to Young (he does get a fair amount of time anyway due to better defense) It's just that I could either sign a stopgap (maybe resign rolen) and wait for Franco to develop, or make this trade and hope Rendon will be ready. If he isn't this deal does not make a lot of sense to me. I feel I would be giving up more than needed.

OBSL Commish · 08-29-2013, 10:27 AM

See if you can do the deal without Quinn being involved. As you said, Rollins is signed for a couple more years so when his contract is finished, Quinn should be ready. Or try and trade Rollins or even Rollins/Franco for Rendon. You may have to add a little cash but I wouldn't give up Quinn if I don't have to. You'll need a good SS when Rollins leaves.

Biddle for Rendon may be do-able, too. I don't know how your negotiations have gone so far, but I know when I've played my MLB QS league, that Rendon is not untouchable by any means. I play as the Cardinals and the Nats took Freese and Ryan Jackson for Rendon and Zach Walters.

PSUColonel · 08-29-2013, 01:40 PM

Rollins has a no trade clause and is playing well anyway. I tried to give them Franco instead of Quinn, but no interest. Consequently, I think this deal is likely going to be a no go

OBSL Commish · 08-29-2013, 05:54 PM

Ah I forgot about the NTC. What about Biddle and Franco for Rendon?

ShaneCarson · 08-29-2013, 05:57 PM

That trade, as it is, is lopsided. Rendon is worth more and this feels like stacking prospects to take advantage of the AI(who will take quantity over quality).

Edit: Editing as I said prospects, which Tolbert clearly is not at age 31.

OBSL Commish · 08-29-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaneCarson

That trade, as it is, is lopsided. Rendon is worth more and this feels like stacking prospects to take advantage of the AI(who will take quantity over quality).

I don't think it's off by much. Biddle and Franco are close to being top 100 prospects, and there is a lot of injury risk with Rendon. He has never played a full season anywhere and Washington is getting two good players. Add in another prospect and it should be more even. Personally, I wouldn't trade three good prospects for Rendon but that's my preference.

Pacoheadley · 08-30-2013, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OBSL Commish

I don't think it's off by much. Biddle and Franco are close to being top 100 prospects, and there is a lot of injury risk with Rendon. He has never played a full season anywhere and Washington is getting two good players. Add in another prospect and it should be more even. Personally, I wouldn't trade three good prospects for Rendon but that's my preference.

Plus, in the game world Zimmerman's defense is still great, so they have bigger potential need at SS/2B than 3B anyway.

damientheomen3 · 08-30-2013, 02:22 AM

Oh god, look at Matt Tolbert's mouth. Trade him now!!

PSUColonel · 08-30-2013, 10:22 AM

I have found a way to do it without Quinn...but now it also has me second guessing. OSA likes the players as does Washington my scouts don't. I think its asking way too much when I still have Franco. He might not be as of high quality a 3B prospect, but why would I give all of that up. BTW...I am using hard as my trade setting.

PSUColonel · 08-30-2013, 10:27 AM

Here are the others:

PSUColonel · 08-30-2013, 10:30 AM

and now the scouting reports:

OBSL Commish · 08-30-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

I have found a way to do it without Quinn...but now it also has me second guessing. OSA likes the players as does Washington my scouts don't. I think its asking way too much when I still have Franco. He might not be as of high quality a 3B prospect, but why would I give all of that up. BTW...I am using hard as my trade setting.

Ah I keep my trade settings at the default. I find it's hard enough to make trades on that level. I have overspent some like this trade but I only did that for proven players like Longoria and others in a MLB fantasy league I started last week. I gave up Freese, Jackson, Jon Jay, Matt Adams, Kevin Siegrist, and a 3rd round draft pick for Longoria. I have only tried the Hard setting once and I couldn't get any deal made at all unless I overspent on a mid-level player.

PSUColonel · 08-30-2013, 02:13 PM

but this might not be overspending. The pitchers I am offering are scouted as not being too good by my scout. OSA has a differing opinion. Their performances aren't good. The player I am attempting to acquire is scouted as being a potential superstar, has good stats for now, but ultimately the jury is out on every player in this deal. Yes it's a lot of prospects, but really how good are they? There's no consensus.

PSUColonel · 08-30-2013, 02:48 PM

Another thing to consider is Washington has no weaknesses. I wonder if that plays into the negotiations? It may be why it is requiring so much??

OBSL Commish · 08-30-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Another thing to consider is Washington has no weaknesses. I wonder if that plays into the negotiations? It may be why it is requiring so much??

That could be a factor, too. If those players the AI agreed to don't have good stats in the minors, then I say dump them. They'll probably never develop and you'll have gotten something for nothing since it's apparent the AI loves Rendon.

EKomrska15 · 08-30-2013, 02:53 PM

Yeah I can't help much because I put trading on very hard and heavily favor prospects

BeancheBlanco · 08-30-2013, 03:27 PM

Look at the prospect rankings. Pick the guy with the higher ranking. Easy.

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Originally Posted by EKomrska15

Yeah I can't help much because I put trading on very hard and heavily favor prospects

Look out guys, we have a badass here.

08-29-2013, 12:24 AM	#1
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	Trade Advice I have rollins signed for a couple of more years (thanks Amaro) and so I am willing to potentially trade my best prospect SS Quinn for a great 3B prospect. Here is what I have in mind. SS Quinn (A), SP Biddle (AA), and 2B Tolbert (AAA) I am attempting to trade for 3B Rendon (AAA) So, Here it begins: I give: Attached Images

08-29-2013, 12:25 AM	#2
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	They Give: Attached Images

08-29-2013, 12:28 AM	#3
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	Now obviously the main players in the deal are Quinn and Rendon (and to a lesser extent Biddle) So here are the major comparisons: Attached Images Last edited by PSUColonel; 08-29-2013 at 12:30 AM.

08-29-2013, 12:48 AM	#4
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	I do have this 3B waiting in the wings, but not likely for next season (young's contract will expire) I even signed Scott Rolen as a backup to Young (he does get a fair amount of time anyway due to better defense) It's just that I could either sign a stopgap (maybe resign rolen) and wait for Franco to develop, or make this trade and hope Rendon will be ready. If he isn't this deal does not make a lot of sense to me. I feel I would be giving up more than needed. Attached Images

08-29-2013, 05:57 PM	#8
ShaneCarson All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 728	That trade, as it is, is lopsided. Rendon is worth more and this feels like stacking prospects to take advantage of the AI(who will take quantity over quality). Edit: Editing as I said prospects, which Tolbert clearly is not at age 31. Last edited by ShaneCarson; 08-29-2013 at 06:02 PM.

08-29-2013, 10:27 AM	#5
OBSL Commish All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 945	See if you can do the deal without Quinn being involved. As you said, Rollins is signed for a couple more years so when his contract is finished, Quinn should be ready. Or try and trade Rollins or even Rollins/Franco for Rendon. You may have to add a little cash but I wouldn't give up Quinn if I don't have to. You'll need a good SS when Rollins leaves. Biddle for Rendon may be do-able, too. I don't know how your negotiations have gone so far, but I know when I've played my MLB QS league, that Rendon is not untouchable by any means. I play as the Cardinals and the Nats took Freese and Ryan Jackson for Rendon and Zach Walters.

08-29-2013, 01:40 PM	#6
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	Rollins has a no trade clause and is playing well anyway. I tried to give them Franco instead of Quinn, but no interest. Consequently, I think this deal is likely going to be a no go

08-29-2013, 05:54 PM	#7
OBSL Commish All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 945	Ah I forgot about the NTC. What about Biddle and Franco for Rendon?

08-30-2013, 10:22 AM	#12
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	I have found a way to do it without Quinn...but now it also has me second guessing. OSA likes the players as does Washington my scouts don't. I think its asking way too much when I still have Franco. He might not be as of high quality a 3B prospect, but why would I give all of that up. BTW...I am using hard as my trade setting. Attached Images

08-30-2013, 10:27 AM	#13
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	Here are the others: Attached Images

08-30-2013, 10:30 AM	#14
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	and now the scouting reports: Attached Images

08-30-2013, 02:13 PM	#16
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	but this might not be overspending. The pitchers I am offering are scouted as not being too good by my scout. OSA has a differing opinion. Their performances aren't good. The player I am attempting to acquire is scouted as being a potential superstar, has good stats for now, but ultimately the jury is out on every player in this deal. Yes it's a lot of prospects, but really how good are they? There's no consensus.

08-30-2013, 02:48 PM	#17
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,140	Another thing to consider is Washington has no weaknesses. I wonder if that plays into the negotiations? It may be why it is requiring so much??

08-30-2013, 02:53 PM	#19
EKomrska15 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,533	Yeah I can't help much because I put trading on very hard and heavily favor prospects