Need Suggestions So I'll Get Off of My Butt...

professor ape · 05-28-2013, 07:37 PM

OK, I have been a long time OOTP player/supporter going back to version 6.5, buying every version since. I call myself a player/supporter because I haven't seriously played in nearly two years despite buying 12 & 13. The reason for this is that I always have ambitions of building a detailed fictional league but never fell that I am ready to take on the task. Despite my lack of playing time, I have no problem supporting the team's efforts with a purchase each year. It's a great game.

One of the issues is that it seems to take a few seasons for the stats to settle down in a fictional league. What I would like to do is set up a group of four or five initial leagues of 8-12 teams starting in 1880 simulating competing local leagues. Once I hit 1900 I'll want to create a Major League of 18 teams and will set up a basic minor league system underneath it. I have a lot more to work out and obviously I'm not looking to simulate the development of the real MLB but instead, an alternate development.

My question for now is, can I fairly simply set up a universe with the 4-5 leagues and then create a primary league twenty seasons in. If so, how do I accomplish this and what suggestions can you give as I work up the structure?

Thanks

professor ape · 05-29-2013, 07:41 PM

90 views and no advice yet? Please, help a brother out!

The Game · 05-29-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by professor ape

My question for now is, can I fairly simply set up a universe with the 4-5 leagues and then create a primary league twenty seasons in. If so, how do I accomplish this and what suggestions can you give as I work up the structure?

Thanks

Are you trying to do the AA, NA, NL etc then create MLB in 1901? If you want accuracy it might be time consuming to contract teams after each season. Creating several leagues simming 20 years and then putting them all in one league can take as little as 10 minutes. I am not on 14 but that folder option to be able to put all logos and jerseys in them and have them chnage automatically has to save a ton of time. I restarted my historical league from 1894 and it took me 3 weeks to get back to 1901.

Andriko · 05-29-2013, 08:10 PM

Maybe you could run the leagues as you say for a while, then just create the major league you want when you want it, and release all those other players from their teams and delete those leagues.

Not 100% sure this will work though, I've never tried it.

The easy alternative is to just set up a league then sim 20years before you start playing.

professor ape · 05-29-2013, 08:29 PM

Thanks for the feedback so far. I am not trying to recreate the real structure of the leagues during that time. This is pure fiction so I have a fair bit of latitude.

I'll refine my question based on the last reply. Is there a problem if I create 4-5 major leagues in my universe and then do as suggested where I would release all players in 1900 and create a new major league which will then draft from the full pool of available players?

sprague · 05-29-2013, 09:18 PM

hey prof
i think there would be a little challenge doing it as one think they would do- start a new league with teams, then delete the other leagues- but then all those players from the deleted leagues will just wind up in the free agent pool and there would be no draft

so my suggestion would be in 1900 or 1901, start a new league (with just 2 teams if possible- you might need to have a template ready to set that up) then move all your old teams from the other leagues into the new league. now delete the old leagues, in the new league- click the release all players and set up fantasy draft next day.

delete teams and bring in fresh ones
or rename teams or what not

then you will hve the league you want, with all players draft eligible, and they should keep thier old stats- i think-

though someone else might have a simpler method, but that is how i would try to do it
run a test of a 4 team league for 1 year, set up a new league for 4 teams and see if you can then draft the old players following my suggestions- before trying something a bit bigger

elfsutton · 05-29-2013, 10:10 PM

If I get what your asking from the op, yes it is very much possbile to do four or five original leagues and then condence them to one. See my What might have been dynasty. I am not condensing but it is the same idea.

If you want to use the left over teams as the initial minor leagues, I think that can be done but I have never done so so I am not sure it can be done or not.

Create your leagues as fictional leagues. run off as many years as you want. When your ready to create your new league, you can either use one of the existing leagues or create a new league (only two teams that you will need to delete, players too) and move your teams around.

professor ape · 05-29-2013, 10:31 PM

Thanks. Good feedback so far. I think that I'll need to set up a couple of test universes and do some trial and error.

Keep the suggestions rolling.

The Game · 05-29-2013, 11:20 PM

Ape, I had started an accurate 1871 NA fictional league but i gave up at the start of the 1876 season when they wre to become the NL. I was doing this on 13. It was becoming too tedious to change logos and uniforms each year. I didn't plan on doing a redraft come 1901 let me know how this works I might do that when i get 14.

05-28-2013, 07:37 PM	#1
professor ape All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The belly of the beast Posts: 1,498	Need Suggestions So I'll Get Off of My Butt... OK, I have been a long time OOTP player/supporter going back to version 6.5, buying every version since. I call myself a player/supporter because I haven't seriously played in nearly two years despite buying 12 & 13. The reason for this is that I always have ambitions of building a detailed fictional league but never fell that I am ready to take on the task. Despite my lack of playing time, I have no problem supporting the team's efforts with a purchase each year. It's a great game. One of the issues is that it seems to take a few seasons for the stats to settle down in a fictional league. What I would like to do is set up a group of four or five initial leagues of 8-12 teams starting in 1880 simulating competing local leagues. Once I hit 1900 I'll want to create a Major League of 18 teams and will set up a basic minor league system underneath it. I have a lot more to work out and obviously I'm not looking to simulate the development of the real MLB but instead, an alternate development. My question for now is, can I fairly simply set up a universe with the 4-5 leagues and then create a primary league twenty seasons in. If so, how do I accomplish this and what suggestions can you give as I work up the structure? Thanks

05-29-2013, 10:10 PM	#7
elfsutton All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Cadiz, Ohio Posts: 946	If I get what your asking from the op, yes it is very much possbile to do four or five original leagues and then condence them to one. See my What might have been dynasty. I am not condensing but it is the same idea. If you want to use the left over teams as the initial minor leagues, I think that can be done but I have never done so so I am not sure it can be done or not. Create your leagues as fictional leagues. run off as many years as you want. When your ready to create your new league, you can either use one of the existing leagues or create a new league (only two teams that you will need to delete, players too) and move your teams around. __________________ Pittsburgh Pirates, Cleveland Indians fan Rewriting Cubs History, a Dynasty Report Baseball History, What Might Have Been Rewriting Cubs History Poll

05-29-2013, 07:41 PM	#2
professor ape All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The belly of the beast Posts: 1,498	90 views and no advice yet? Please, help a brother out!

05-29-2013, 08:10 PM	#4
Andriko Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London, UK Posts: 50	Maybe you could run the leagues as you say for a while, then just create the major league you want when you want it, and release all those other players from their teams and delete those leagues. Not 100% sure this will work though, I've never tried it. The easy alternative is to just set up a league then sim 20years before you start playing.

05-29-2013, 08:29 PM	#5
professor ape All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The belly of the beast Posts: 1,498	Thanks for the feedback so far. I am not trying to recreate the real structure of the leagues during that time. This is pure fiction so I have a fair bit of latitude. I'll refine my question based on the last reply. Is there a problem if I create 4-5 major leagues in my universe and then do as suggested where I would release all players in 1900 and create a new major league which will then draft from the full pool of available players?

05-29-2013, 09:18 PM	#6
sprague All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,947	hey prof i think there would be a little challenge doing it as one think they would do- start a new league with teams, then delete the other leagues- but then all those players from the deleted leagues will just wind up in the free agent pool and there would be no draft so my suggestion would be in 1900 or 1901, start a new league (with just 2 teams if possible- you might need to have a template ready to set that up) then move all your old teams from the other leagues into the new league. now delete the old leagues, in the new league- click the release all players and set up fantasy draft next day. delete teams and bring in fresh ones or rename teams or what not then you will hve the league you want, with all players draft eligible, and they should keep thier old stats- i think- though someone else might have a simpler method, but that is how i would try to do it run a test of a 4 team league for 1 year, set up a new league for 4 teams and see if you can then draft the old players following my suggestions- before trying something a bit bigger

05-29-2013, 10:31 PM	#8
professor ape All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The belly of the beast Posts: 1,498	Thanks. Good feedback so far. I think that I'll need to set up a couple of test universes and do some trial and error. Keep the suggestions rolling.

05-29-2013, 11:20 PM	#9
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	Ape, I had started an accurate 1871 NA fictional league but i gave up at the start of the 1876 season when they wre to become the NL. I was doing this on 13. It was becoming too tedious to change logos and uniforms each year. I didn't plan on doing a redraft come 1901 let me know how this works I might do that when i get 14.