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Old 11-05-2013, 07:13 PM   #1
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Facial Types

I've been having this problem for a little while now, but I need to know what category (Caucasian, East Indian, African, Asian, Hispanic, not in that order) to put each of these racial groups in when creating my nations.

Sorry in advance if this is offensive to anyone.

- Native American: Really confused with this one as none really fit. I'm leaning towards East Indian?
- Pacific Islander (Chamorran, Samoan, Hawaiian, etc.): I know the broader category is labelled "Asian and Pacific Islander" but I'm not sure.
- Filipino: The nations.txt file lists anybody with this ethnicity as having a Caucasian face, but I'm again leaning towards East Indian.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:46 PM   #2
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I would throw all of those into East Indian.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:59 PM   #3
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Am interesting showcase of famous Native American faces is available at

Indian faces - Lakota Sioux Cheyenne Mescalero Apache Arapaho Crow Pawnee Blackfoot

I do not think that any facial group in the game represents Native Americans adequately.

The Pacific Islanders I have met vary drastically as well. We have a setting. My advice is to use it.

Filipinos come in three general types: mestizos, morenos and chinitos. A mestizo is half something and may be half anything, so appearances vary widely. Morenos have a fair brown complexion, and chinitos have slanted/almond eyes and look more Asian. Some look Caucasian, some Hispanic, some Asian, some East Indian. Good luck with that one.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:07 PM   #4
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Am interesting showcase of famous Native American faces is available at

Indian faces - Lakota Sioux Cheyenne Mescalero Apache Arapaho Crow Pawnee Blackfoot

I do not think that any facial group in the game represents Native Americans adequately.

The Pacific Islanders I have met vary drastically as well. We have a setting. My advice is to use it.

Filipinos come in three general types: mestizos, morenos and chinitos. A mestizo is half something and may be half anything, so appearances vary widely. Morenos having a fair brown complexion, and chinitos have slanted/almond eyes and look more Asian. Some look Caucasian, some Hispanic, some Asian, some East Indian. Good luck with that one.
That link had some very nice photos, still very tough to say. I'm leaning towards East Indian or Hispanic.

What "setting" are you referring to for Pacific Islanders?

As for Filipinos, I think I'll just divide them up equally into the 4 groups.
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Asian and Pacific Islander.
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I wish Markus will add more spefici racial faces like natives and islanders. Even in Asian Loa and Cambodians look different that
vietnesse, Chinnese and Japanese
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Asian and Pacific Islander.
Oh, O.K!

I think I'll put Native Americans in East Indian, Pacific Islanders in Asian, and Filipino equally divided into all but African.

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I wish Markus will add more spefici racial faces like natives and islanders. Even in Asian Loa and Cambodians look different that
vietnesse, Chinnese and Japanese
That would be very useful, you could post that in the suggestions forum.
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I'm thinking Native American is closer to Hispanic than East Asian.
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I'm thinking Native American is closer to Hispanic than East Asian.
Some are, some aren't. It is a distinct racial group (I'm in it), and there really aren't enough of us in professional baseball to worry about it much. We're less than a percent of the total US population, and even with those who consider themselves part Native American, we're still less than two percent. If you put all of us in one city it would be just a bit bigger than Chicago. Do whatever works for you and feel no guilt.
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I wish Markus will add more spefici racial faces like natives and islanders. Even in Asian Loa and Cambodians look different that
vietnesse, Chinnese and Japanese


Markus and the OOTP team aren't responsible for the specific "racial faces". Those are generated by the FaceGen program (a third-party program).
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