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Old 09-28-2012, 04:24 AM   #1
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Salaries/Taxes

The thing that i would like to know is if the game contains per country tax percentage information, because there are quite some differences between different nations. It's one thing to be offered a 1 mil offer with a 20% tax rate and another at a 40% one.
Take the KHL/NHL difference, for example: In gross numbers the cap difference is 37 mil vs. 70 mil, but in net numbers, with a 13% flat tax rate for Russia and, let's say, about 40% for the US/Canada, the real numbers are 32 mil for the KHL and 42 mil for the NHL. Now that's quite a difference...

That being said, I am awaiting the release of this game with extreme excitement. Have a great day!
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:15 PM   #2
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Interesting point. I doubt the finances will be as detailed as that, but it would be cool if players took stuff like that into account.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:53 PM   #3
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The thing that i would like to know is if the game contains per country tax percentage information, because there are quite some differences between different nations. It's one thing to be offered a 1 mil offer with a 20% tax rate and another at a 40% one.
Take the KHL/NHL difference, for example: In gross numbers the cap difference is 37 mil vs. 70 mil, but in net numbers, with a 13% flat tax rate for Russia and, let's say, about 40% for the US/Canada, the real numbers are 32 mil for the KHL and 42 mil for the NHL. Now that's quite a difference...

That being said, I am awaiting the release of this game with extreme excitement. Have a great day!
In Russia also there is the option if the player is good enough to play tax free - would be a cool feature for the game but if it doesnt make it in they its no big deal!
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Old 09-29-2012, 03:48 AM   #4
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In Russia also there is the option if the player is good enough to play tax free - would be a cool feature for the game but if it doesnt make it in they its no big deal!
Of course it's not a big deal. I just thought it would add more depth and realism, and I don't think it's a hard to add feature, it's just a simple multiplier and, of course, a bit of research.
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:44 AM   #5
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This would be a cool feature, but it could also end up making things unrealistic depending on how it is implemented.

Let's say we have a tax-rate of 50% in Denmark and 30% in the USA. There is still the question of what "bonuses" this tax-rate offers. For example things like free-healthcare, free-education etc.

A player who makes a ton of money would obviously make more money on the bottom with a low tax-rate, even though he would have to have private health-insurance and pay for his childrens school etc.

But the less amount of money the player makes, the less this becomes apparent. Minor league players might actually make more on the bottom in countries with higher tax-rates, as their salary would not be high enough to easily pay privately for the "bonuses" that are provided via tax in countries with tax-funded welfare.

Or to put it in mathematical terms, anyone who makes more than X is better off paying a low tax rate, while anyone who makes less than X is better off paying a high tax rate (with X being dependent on the level of tax-funded welfare being provided in different countries).

It's probably to complex to model, but simply letting players prefer a low-tax rate would be unrealistic for these reasons.

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Old 11-01-2012, 03:12 PM   #6
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Salaries/Taxes

The salaries/Taxes will probably be similar to OOTP Baseball and I would assume that the financial structure will likely be somewhat similar to OOTP Baseball . I can't tell you for sure but I highly doubt that it would be complex.
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:37 AM   #7
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I wouldn't go too far down this road.
The KHL is also known as a league where the checks don't always come in the mail.
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:06 PM   #8
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While perhaps a factor in soccer, in hockey the NHL is clearly the world's premier league and players want to play in it for that reason. Money is not the deciding factor... though the money's pretty good.
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:38 PM   #9
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This could get out of control to where you would have to take into consideration the value of each nation's currency. For example, in 2011 one American dollar was equal to 30 Russian rubles.

I'll take playing in the U.S.A. and being paid with American dollars anyday.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:08 PM   #10
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While perhaps a factor in soccer, in hockey the NHL is clearly the world's premier league and players want to play in it for that reason. Money is not the deciding factor... though the money's pretty good.

tell that to some of the russians. If they can't be a top 6 player in the NHL they'd rather play in their home country for far more money and playing time. And who could blame them really.

Canada and USA have different taxes too. Canadians pay more tax. But there's no doubt about it it that in Russia 5 million is 5 million when 5 mil in the NHL is probably closer to half. (Taxes and player equity fund)

I really like the idea. It is also somewhat complex and might be too much to take on for a first version.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:14 PM   #11
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This could get out of control to where you would have to take into consideration the value of each nation's currency. For example, in 2011 one American dollar was equal to 30 Russian rubles.

I'll take playing in the U.S.A. and being paid with American dollars anyday.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:18 PM   #12
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This could get out of control to where you would have to take into consideration the value of each nation's currency. For example, in 2011 one American dollar was equal to 30 Russian rubles.

I'll take playing in the U.S.A. and being paid with American dollars anyday.
Again not something that is likely to be implemented into the game but some players in Russia/KHL can be paid in other currencies. Ozolinsh for instance when at Riga was being paid in Euro's
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