Recipe for success?

beansthemachine · 08-12-2012, 02:19 PM

ok I'm just about done w/this game. everyone on my pitching staff is an above average pitcher (nobody has a rating lower than 50) and all my starters have an ERA over 5. not a single one is under. My pitching coach has a rating of excellent for teaching pitching and everyone is happy. My team started 4-1 and I'm not 12-20. what gives?

The Game · 08-12-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by beansthemachine

ok I'm just about done w/this game. everyone on my pitching staff is an above average pitcher (nobody has a rating lower than 50) and all my starters have an ERA over 5. not a single one is under. My pitching coach has a rating of excellent for teaching pitching and everyone is happy. My team started 4-1 and I'm not 12-20. what gives?

What type of game are you playing, fictional, historical or modern? What are the pitching modifiers? What park do you play in?
There are many factors as to why tour starters have high ERA. You leave them in too long, you take them out too quickly. You are in a tough division. etc. Not all players live yo to potential. Turn scouting on to 100% accurate and see what changes. I have a player who I edit his stats every yr and he still will only hit in the .250 5 HR 40 RBI range in 3 different leagues. In one of my semi defunct leagues. I played in a bandbox and my staff era was 4.13 avg the past 3 seasons, yet I averaged 7.8 RPG.

beansthemachine · 08-12-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Game

What type of game are you playing, fictional, historical or modern? What are the pitching modifiers? What park do you play in?
There are many factors as to why tour starters have high ERA. You leave them in too long, you take them out too quickly. You are in a tough division. etc. Not all players live yo to potential. Turn scouting on to 100% accurate and see what changes. I have a player who I edit his stats every yr and he still will only hit in the .250 5 HR 40 RBI range in 3 different leagues. In one of my semi defunct leagues. I played in a bandbox and my staff era was 4.13 avg the past 3 seasons, yet I averaged 7.8 RPG.

I'm doing a modern game, didn't know there were pitching modifiers. I typically just simulate the games and don't control them, but what's frustrating to me is that it seems that ratings have no impacts on the results what-so-ever. I sign these players to contracts @ high dollars (though I am quite frugal) and they never live up to previous performance or anything. My highest ranked pitcher (current - 59, potential - 68) and he's 0-7 with an ERA over 5.00. What's the point of ranking players if high ranked players don't perform to their rankings? every time, and I mean EVERY time I make a trade, the player NEVER gives me the results he had w/his previous team. I'm so frustrated with this game and it seems like no matter what I do, my players never put up good numbers. Adrian Gonzales hit 300/30/100+ two seasons ago and last year he didn't reach any of those marks, yet he's still rated as a 4-star player. This season he's hitting under .250 and on pace for only 16 HR's. I understand that it's a simulation and I have no control over what happens but something has to give. You can't just make a game that doesn't line up w/the team you put together. I have good players and the game doesn't care, just spits out whatever numbers it wants. I wish I never purchased this game and I would love to have my $$ back.

RchW · 08-12-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by beansthemachine

My highest ranked pitcher (current - 59, potential - 68)

This should be your first clue. A fifth starter at best.

SandMan · 08-12-2012, 09:51 PM

32 games is a small sample size. Play the season out and see if your players reach their usual stats. Also a 59 rated pitcher is really not so good and you state he is your ace. You may just need better players.

MrDov · 08-12-2012, 11:42 PM

If you are basing their ratings off of what your scout says, what are your scout's ratings?

The Game · 08-13-2012, 04:00 AM

FA's coming in from from another team also seems to play a factor the 1st year. In my modern league I signed a guy 4.5 stars ovr/pot 28 yrs old. ctrl/stu/mov 7 across the board who went 23-10 the season before leading the league in ERA (this was in Petco) came to my team playing in the Baker Bowl and had an ERA over 4.50 until late into September until he got it under 4.00. Also sometimes certain players suck until the weather warms up. But yeah, 59/68 isn't that good to me either.

The Game · 08-13-2012, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDov

If you are basing their ratings off of what your scout says, what are your scout's ratings?

Also check to see what the players real ratings are under 100% scouting accuracy.

beansthemachine · 08-13-2012, 07:29 PM

The guy rated 60/69 isn't my ace, but he's my second highest ranked pitcher, that is on the 20/80 rating scale. I have yet to fire my scout but his rating is good for majors and amateurs and excellent for international and minors. Maybe that's contributing to some of my problems is that he's not so good w/the major league players. I will try a new scout next year and maybe I will have better luck. It's just very frustrating to see player ratings fluctuate so much through the course of the season. I'm in my 4th year now and this is the worst one yet, but I have the same scout and hired Scocia as my manager and he had "legendary" for handling players and my pitching coach has an "excellent" rating for teaching pitching yet my staff is an absolute mess.

The Game · 08-13-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by beansthemachine

The guy rated 60/69 isn't my ace, but he's my second highest ranked pitcher, that is on the 20/80 rating scale. I have yet to fire my scout but his rating is good for majors and amateurs and excellent for international and minors. Maybe that's contributing to some of my problems is that he's not so good w/the major league players. I will try a new scout next year and maybe I will have better luck. It's just very frustrating to see player ratings fluctuate so much through the course of the season. I'm in my 4th year now and this is the worst one yet, but I have the same scout and hired Scocia as my manager and he had "legendary" for handling players and my pitching coach has an "excellent" rating for teaching pitching yet my staff is an absolute mess.

You could change Talent Randomness down. I use 1, because I got tired of a 5 star guy becoming a .5 star guy by the all star break. Found under league setup AI Options.

RchW · 08-13-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by beansthemachine

The guy rated 60/69 isn't my ace, but he's my second highest ranked pitcher, that is on the 20/80 rating scale. I have yet to fire my scout but his rating is good for majors and amateurs and excellent for international and minors. Maybe that's contributing to some of my problems is that he's not so good w/the major league players. I will try a new scout next year and maybe I will have better luck. It's just very frustrating to see player ratings fluctuate so much through the course of the season. I'm in my 4th year now and this is the worst one yet, but I have the same scout and hired Scocia as my manager and he had "legendary" for handling players and my pitching coach has an "excellent" rating for teaching pitching yet my staff is an absolute mess.

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Originally Posted by beansthemachine

My highest ranked pitcher (current - 59, potential - 68)

TGH-Adfabre · 08-14-2012, 03:46 PM

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-get-game.html

SandMan · 08-14-2012, 04:44 PM

The Mods should move this to "New to the Game" forum. This OP already started a similar thread there about his team. It doesn't match what he is saying here so I would tend to think that the posts are just a form of "trolling". IMHO.

08-12-2012, 02:19 PM	#1
beansthemachine Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4	Recipe for success? ok I'm just about done w/this game. everyone on my pitching staff is an above average pitcher (nobody has a rating lower than 50) and all my starters have an ERA over 5. not a single one is under. My pitching coach has a rating of excellent for teaching pitching and everyone is happy. My team started 4-1 and I'm not 12-20. what gives? Last edited by beansthemachine; 08-12-2012 at 02:28 PM. Reason: typo

08-14-2012, 03:46 PM	#12
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08-12-2012, 09:51 PM	#5
SandMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,946	32 games is a small sample size. Play the season out and see if your players reach their usual stats. Also a 59 rated pitcher is really not so good and you state he is your ace. You may just need better players.

08-12-2012, 11:42 PM	#6
MrDov Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 281	If you are basing their ratings off of what your scout says, what are your scout's ratings?

08-13-2012, 04:00 AM	#7
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	FA's coming in from from another team also seems to play a factor the 1st year. In my modern league I signed a guy 4.5 stars ovr/pot 28 yrs old. ctrl/stu/mov 7 across the board who went 23-10 the season before leading the league in ERA (this was in Petco) came to my team playing in the Baker Bowl and had an ERA over 4.50 until late into September until he got it under 4.00. Also sometimes certain players suck until the weather warms up. But yeah, 59/68 isn't that good to me either.

08-13-2012, 07:29 PM	#9
beansthemachine Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4	The guy rated 60/69 isn't my ace, but he's my second highest ranked pitcher, that is on the 20/80 rating scale. I have yet to fire my scout but his rating is good for majors and amateurs and excellent for international and minors. Maybe that's contributing to some of my problems is that he's not so good w/the major league players. I will try a new scout next year and maybe I will have better luck. It's just very frustrating to see player ratings fluctuate so much through the course of the season. I'm in my 4th year now and this is the worst one yet, but I have the same scout and hired Scocia as my manager and he had "legendary" for handling players and my pitching coach has an "excellent" rating for teaching pitching yet my staff is an absolute mess.

08-14-2012, 04:44 PM	#13
SandMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,946	The Mods should move this to "New to the Game" forum. This OP already started a similar thread there about his team. It doesn't match what he is saying here so I would tend to think that the posts are just a form of "trolling". IMHO.