Game too easy??

mrbadguy · 04-17-2012, 05:03 PM

Still a newbie to OOTP (was a Baseball Mogul guy..yikes). Bought 11 and started a Franchise. First year my team stunk, which is good. Now Im in my 4th year and it is ridiculously easy. Think I'm 110-30 or so. I'm basically playing with default settings. I've heard that this may be the norm. Is it?
I basically developed my team with young "future stars". Guys that were good early in their career.ie Jim Rice, Gary Carter, Al Oliver, Frank Tanana, and a few lopsided trades ( Carew for Rich Hebner). .Is this problem? Me knowing that they will be good, wheras the CPU seems to draft anybody.

Just wondering..Love the game..just dont want to dominate unless thats the real team I built.

Thanks.

snepp · 04-17-2012, 05:09 PM

play fictional
use harder trade difficulty
use lower scouting accuracy
use a smaller ratings scale (or no ratings)
play with very small market teams

If you do all that, and still dominate, play online leagues (they've humbled many a player, including yours truly).

RchW · 04-17-2012, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbadguy

Still a newbie to OOTP (was a Baseball Mogul guy..yikes). Bought 11 and started a Franchise. First year my team stunk, which is good. Now Im in my 4th year and it is ridiculously easy. Think I'm 110-30 or so. I'm basically playing with default settings. I've heard that this may be the norm. Is it?
I basically developed my team with young "future stars". Guys that were good early in their career.ie Jim Rice, Gary Carter, Al Oliver, Frank Tanana, and a few lopsided trades ( Carew for Rich Hebner). .Is this problem? Me knowing that they will be good, wheras the CPU seems to draft anybody.

Just wondering..Love the game..just dont want to dominate unless thats the real team I built.

Thanks.

Your future knowledge is an insurmountable barrier for the AI. See the previous post.

Fictional with no or fogged ratings is the way to go. Regarding trades you must look at them from the view of the other GM. If "you" wouldn't make the trade sitting in that chair running that team then you should not make the trade.

magnet · 04-17-2012, 06:06 PM

OOTP13 has far better trade AI than 11, IMO.

Cras · 04-17-2012, 06:23 PM

I never liked playing with actual historical players just for this reason.

I always preferred the Fictional route (historical fictional for me, always has been since going back to the old days of OOTP). Not knowing who these guys are allows the league and its players to take on a life of its own, and I find it very rewarding finding those guys who turn out to be the legends of the league.

megamanmatt · 04-17-2012, 06:26 PM

Like a lot of people I suggest trying a fictional league. The ABA quickstart is good to start with imo because it lets you follow MLB history if you want and expand like it did or you can go a crazy different direction if you want.

jmount78 · 04-17-2012, 07:06 PM

Fictional is a lot more satisfying or you could try the Japanese League. As for the difficulty in using real players, I took over the 2012 Cubs and it has been far from easy for me.

Everyone is right in turning up the trade logic to hard. If you start out with a team that has several All-Stars that makes it easier, but try the 2011 A's for a challenge.

rjl518 · 04-17-2012, 07:12 PM

i play the Marlins on hard trade difficulty managing entire organization. Barely made the playoffs in first year.

Scoman · 04-17-2012, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbadguy

Still a newbie to OOTP (was a Baseball Mogul guy..yikes). Bought 11 and started a Franchise. First year my team stunk, which is good. Now Im in my 4th year and it is ridiculously easy. Think I'm 110-30 or so. I'm basically playing with default settings. I've heard that this may be the norm. Is it?
I basically developed my team with young "future stars". Guys that were good early in their career.ie Jim Rice, Gary Carter, Al Oliver, Frank Tanana, and a few lopsided trades ( Carew for Rich Hebner). .Is this problem? Me knowing that they will be good, wheras the CPU seems to draft anybody.

Just wondering..Love the game..just dont want to dominate unless thats the real team I built.

Thanks.

For the ultimate fictional challenge,play with stats only,no ratings.

As far as historical goes did you check the,use pre-defined draft value for AI box? This will make the AI drafting much better,without that checked the AI will not draft well at all. Makes a huge difference. This combined with turning financials off ,trades on hard ,make the historical experience more difficult.

snepp · 04-17-2012, 09:26 PM

Here's another one.

If you play with owner controlled budgets, edit the owner to be a cheapskate. That way if you happen to turn a big profit the owner will just pocket most of it for himself.

packersfan · 04-18-2012, 02:09 AM

I'm going to need to try to edit Attanasio to be more of a cheapskate. I try to hold my payroll around the $100 mil mark, but I have a budget going up every year by $20 mil! My first season was really good...always have a great first season with the Brewers lately...105-57. Second season still okay...missed the playoffs by a game after playing a one-game playoff against eventual NL champions San Diego for the final wildcard spot. Third season, basically the same team that led the league in homers...6 guys had around 30 homers each, but now my team can't find their bats at all and my pitching, like the second season, is plagued by giving up huge innings they never gave up the first year...surprising how subtracting or adding one player COMPLETELY throws your team.

Does this happen to anyone else...seems everytime I play this game (any version), I dominate the first season...I move some pieces because I then have an embarrassment of riches. The second season everyone seems to regress while some guys pick it up and have monster seasons. Third season, total collapse by everybody at the same time. My only starter that is playing decent at all is Greinke (that extension is looking brilliant)...Marcum on the other who was killer in 2012 is not earning his money, and Gallardo has completely vanished. ....o well.

PSUColonel · 04-18-2012, 03:16 AM

Play with scouting on, but use potentials and not current ratings...big difference with a feel of realism.

megamanmatt · 04-18-2012, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Play with scouting on, but use potentials and not current ratings...big difference with a feel of realism.

Never thought of no currents. Might have to try that. I would add though turning off the overall rating also helps increase the difficulty.

jacksparrow · 04-18-2012, 03:35 AM

I'm planning to join but I think I'm not yet prepared.

daves · 04-18-2012, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbadguy

Still a newbie to OOTP (was a Baseball Mogul guy..yikes). Bought 11 and started a Franchise. First year my team stunk, which is good. Now Im in my 4th year and it is ridiculously easy. Think I'm 110-30 or so. I'm basically playing with default settings. I've heard that this may be the norm. Is it?
I basically developed my team with young "future stars". Guys that were good early in their career.ie Jim Rice, Gary Carter, Al Oliver, Frank Tanana, and a few lopsided trades ( Carew for Rich Hebner). .Is this problem? Me knowing that they will be good, wheras the CPU seems to draft anybody.

Just wondering..Love the game..just dont want to dominate unless thats the real team I built.

Thanks.

You had the same problem with Mogul/

steamboat2302 · 04-18-2012, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daves

You had the same problem with Mogul/

I had that problem with mogul. I liked alot of things about it but I couldn't stop myself from dominating it.

04-17-2012, 05:03 PM	#1
mrbadguy Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 254	Game too easy?? Still a newbie to OOTP (was a Baseball Mogul guy..yikes). Bought 11 and started a Franchise. First year my team stunk, which is good. Now Im in my 4th year and it is ridiculously easy. Think I'm 110-30 or so. I'm basically playing with default settings. I've heard that this may be the norm. Is it? I basically developed my team with young "future stars". Guys that were good early in their career.ie Jim Rice, Gary Carter, Al Oliver, Frank Tanana, and a few lopsided trades ( Carew for Rich Hebner). .Is this problem? Me knowing that they will be good, wheras the CPU seems to draft anybody. Just wondering..Love the game..just dont want to dominate unless thats the real team I built. Thanks.

04-17-2012, 06:23 PM	#5
Cras Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: LEO Posts: 3,789	I never liked playing with actual historical players just for this reason. I always preferred the Fictional route (historical fictional for me, always has been since going back to the old days of OOTP). Not knowing who these guys are allows the league and its players to take on a life of its own, and I find it very rewarding finding those guys who turn out to be the legends of the league. __________________ The Chicago White Sox 1906, 1917, 2005 World Series Champions 1900, 1901, 1906, 1917, 1919, 1959, 2005 American League Champions 2000, 2005, 2008 American League Central Division Champions 1983, 1993 American League West Division Champions OOTP \| Orbiter \| SSMS \| FSX \| LoL \| MLP:FIM!

04-17-2012, 06:26 PM	#6
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	Like a lot of people I suggest trying a fictional league. The ABA quickstart is good to start with imo because it lets you follow MLB history if you want and expand like it did or you can go a crazy different direction if you want. __________________ "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes; The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil; the Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music; The Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland, no one in Los Angeles seemed to notice." Note to self: Princess Kenny was really off-putting.

04-17-2012, 07:12 PM	#8
rjl518 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Born in Shea Stadium, lives in LoanDepot Park. Posts: 6,238	i play the Marlins on hard trade difficulty managing entire organization. Barely made the playoffs in first year. __________________ My Threads: MLB Project 32 by SFGiants58 "Colon looking for his 1st hit of the year and he DRIVES ONE! Deep left field! Back goes Upton! Back near the wall! ITS OUTTA HERE!!! Bartolo has done it!!! THE IMPOSSIBLE HAS HAPPENED!!! This is one of the great moments in the history of baseball! Bartolo Colon has gone deep!" ---Gary Cohen. (May 7, 2016) (Petco Park) NYM 6 @ SD 3

04-18-2012, 03:35 AM	#14
jacksparrow Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: United States Posts: 19	I'm planning to join but I think I'm not yet prepared. __________________ muscle strain \| muscular injury recovery program muscular injury \| knee pain lower back pain \| recurring back pain tendonitis \| muscle fatigue

04-17-2012, 05:09 PM	#2
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,862	play fictional use harder trade difficulty use lower scouting accuracy use a smaller ratings scale (or no ratings) play with very small market teams If you do all that, and still dominate, play online leagues (they've humbled many a player, including yours truly).

04-17-2012, 06:06 PM	#4
magnet Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,029	OOTP13 has far better trade AI than 11, IMO.

04-17-2012, 07:06 PM	#7
jmount78 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 306	Fictional is a lot more satisfying or you could try the Japanese League. As for the difficulty in using real players, I took over the 2012 Cubs and it has been far from easy for me. Everyone is right in turning up the trade logic to hard. If you start out with a team that has several All-Stars that makes it easier, but try the 2011 A's for a challenge.

04-17-2012, 09:26 PM	#10
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,862	Here's another one. If you play with owner controlled budgets, edit the owner to be a cheapskate. That way if you happen to turn a big profit the owner will just pocket most of it for himself.

04-18-2012, 02:09 AM	#11
packersfan Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24	I'm going to need to try to edit Attanasio to be more of a cheapskate. I try to hold my payroll around the $100 mil mark, but I have a budget going up every year by $20 mil! My first season was really good...always have a great first season with the Brewers lately...105-57. Second season still okay...missed the playoffs by a game after playing a one-game playoff against eventual NL champions San Diego for the final wildcard spot. Third season, basically the same team that led the league in homers...6 guys had around 30 homers each, but now my team can't find their bats at all and my pitching, like the second season, is plagued by giving up huge innings they never gave up the first year...surprising how subtracting or adding one player COMPLETELY throws your team. Does this happen to anyone else...seems everytime I play this game (any version), I dominate the first season...I move some pieces because I then have an embarrassment of riches. The second season everyone seems to regress while some guys pick it up and have monster seasons. Third season, total collapse by everybody at the same time. My only starter that is playing decent at all is Greinke (that extension is looking brilliant)...Marcum on the other who was killer in 2012 is not earning his money, and Gallardo has completely vanished. ....o well.

04-18-2012, 03:16 AM	#12
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,143	Play with scouting on, but use potentials and not current ratings...big difference with a feel of realism.