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Old 12-17-2011, 04:56 PM   #1
zoomzilla
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scoring question

I've recently gone to an all reliever staff and I'm starting to see some strange scoring decisions by the AI. I'm not really a stats junkie so I'm not totally sure about this, but this doesn't look like the proper pitcher got the win. He has stockpiled over 100 wins in the last 4 years and many of them are like this. Is this right?

Sorry, the image was too small, can't quit figure that out yet. Anyway, he threw 4 pitches, got one out in an inning in which his team was already ahead(the third inning). The opposing team never had the lead at any point and several other pitchers completed 1 or 2 innings or more.

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Old 12-17-2011, 05:26 PM   #2
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Well, I suppose the MLB rule is a little bit ambiguous for such situations, but it could be easily be interpreted that the most effective relief pitcher should get the win in that situation. Read highlighted section below:

"Rule 10.17 Winning and Losing Pitcher
(a) The official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher that pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, unless
- (1) such pitcher is a starting pitcher and Rule 10.17(b) applies; or
- (2) Rule 10.17(c) applies.
Rule 10.17(a) Comment: Whenever the score is tied, the game becomes a new contest insofar as the winning pitcher is concerned. Once the opposing team assumes the lead, all pitchers who have pitched up to that point and have been replaced are excluded from being credited with the victory. If the pitcher against whose pitching the opposing team gained the lead continues to pitch until his team regains the lead, which it holds to the finish of the game, that pitcher shall be the winning pitcher.
(b) If the pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, is a starting pitcher who has not completed
(1) five innings of a game that lasts six or more innings on defense, or
(2) four innings of a game that lasts five innings on defense, then the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the relief pitcher, if there is only one relief pitcher, or the relief pitcher who, in the official scorer’s judgment was the most effective, if there is more than one relief pitcher.
Rule 10.17(b) Comment: It is the intent of Rule 10.17(b) that a relief pitcher pitch at least one complete inning or pitch when a crucial out is made, within the context of the game (including the score), in order to be credited as the winning pitcher. If the first relief pitcher pitches effectively, the official scorer should not presumptively credit that pitcher with the win, because the rule requires that the win be credited to the pitcher who was the most effective, and a subsequent relief pitcher may have been most effective. The official scorer, in determining which relief pitcher was the most effective, should consider the number of runs, earned runs and base runners given up by each relief pitcher and the context of the game at the time of each relief pitcher’s appearance. If two or more relief pitchers were similarly effective, the official scorer should give the presumption to the earlier pitcher as the winning pitcher.
(c) The official scorer shall not credit as the winning pitcher a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when at least one succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain its lead. In such a case, the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the judgment of the official scorer.
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