Market Size

[Chicagofan76]

has anyone edited these so they r accurate?

I edited mine for my ABF league and even San Diego at 11 is huge. Chicago at 17 is Astronomical.

wondering if since no cities were above 9 if making LA, NY, &CHI at 19,20,17 is the right way to go?

[OmahaReynolds]

I've played around with market size and find the best way to do it is on a 1-10 scale. Anything ten and above is listed as "astronomical." What I've been doing is come up with a population scale from 1-10, figure out the population of the teams cities or metro areas and go from there. If you have two teams in the same city you might want to cut the population in half to determine the market size or go 60/40.

Anyways I think it's a good system

[Chicagofan76]

thanx....see my concern is that most of my teams r broke, so increasing market size would draw more fans but with my chicago Fire i was 3rd last sn at 3.2 mil and my market size said below avg, while cities like san antonio and atlanta drew less but were in bigger markets...i know fan loyalty has to do with this. San Antonio fans r like Phillies fans, while my fans r typical Sox fans.

[OmahaReynolds]

I don't think market size has anything to do with drawing more fans, but it determines the size of your media contract. You could try moving into a new ballpark with more capacity, which would get you more ticket sales.

[CBL-Commish]

I don't remember, is market size on a per-league basis, or universe-wide? I have cities in my universe that range in population from 12 (as in the number after 11, not 12 million) to 30+ million. Within individual leagues the ranges are closer. But "nonexistant" market size means something different to the American League, and the Far North indepenent league representing small towns in northern Canada.

You could have a league where one team is in Manhattan, and the rest are in tiny villages in upstate New York. Would that break the model?

[Chicagofan76]

it would be interesting to hear from someone what the population #'s would be per #. if Chicago is an 8, what would Imperial Center, Coruscant be at 20?

[fhomess]

Market size in OOTP is most directly tied to media revenue. I believe media revenue is calculated something along the lines of the following:
(League Average Media Revenue*Market Size)/5

I think there’s also an element of merchandising revenue that’s affected by market size. I don’t think attendance is tied to it at all, but I’m not 100% sure on that. Remember, the average attendance setting is also league specific.

Since the League Average Media Revenue is a league specific setting, market sizes are relative to the other teams in the league. The actual number isn’t as important as the relationship of that number to other teams in the league.

You could have the New York Yankees as a 10 in your MLB and the Madison Mallards as a 10 in your Northwoods League, and they’d mean very different things for the financials of those teams, even though the raw number is the same.