MLB fans - help me out!

Cole · 10-13-2010, 12:00 AM

I am in a fictional MLB league where we are allowed to select three real-life MLB players for our teams who will be imported into the game as 24-year-olds at their maximum potential.

These players can be from any era EXCEPT for current players and EXCEPT for Hall of Famers.

I don't want to miss anyone, so my question is .. In your opinion who are some of the best MLBers of all time who are now retired but were never in the Hall of Fame?

And more specifically, who have good potential rankings when imported into OOTP as well?

Thanks.

jaxmagicman · 10-13-2010, 12:10 AM

Pete Rose. Shoeless Joe Jackson. Mark McGwire.

jbergey22 · 10-13-2010, 12:32 AM

What do you mean max potential?

Dwight Gooden would have had off the charts potential at one time. Edgar Martinez was a flat out great hitter if you are using a DH. Mike Piazza was probably the greatest hitting catcher of All time and I dont believe he is HOF eligible yet.

Cole · 10-13-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

What do you mean max potential?

Dwight Gooden would have had off the charts potential at one time. Edgar Martinez was a flat out great hitter if you are using a DH. Mike Piazza was probably the greatest hitting catcher of All time and I dont believe he is HOF eligible yet.

Max potential as in, whatever their OOTP potential ratings are in game, their actual ratings in game will be changed to that.

Chicagofan76 · 10-13-2010, 01:00 AM

Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe & Bert Blyleven also my all time fav player (see picture)

rudel.dietrich · 10-13-2010, 01:06 AM

Barry Bonds, barry bonds and b. bonds

Chicagofan76 · 10-13-2010, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Barry Bonds, barry bonds and b. bonds

i think he meant players that didnt take steroids. so that left about 20 good players off the list, and bonds will go in based off his career up to 2002. as will clemens

Moriarty9 · 10-13-2010, 08:37 AM

Aside from some pretty good suggestions so far:

1B: Mo Vaughn, Jeff Bagwell, Frank Thomas
2B: Craig Biggio, Roberto Alomar
SS: Nomar Garciaparra, Barry Larkin
OF: Moises Alou, Jackie Jensen, Jay Buhner, Ken Griffey Jr., Paul O'Neill, Dwight Evans

jaxmagicman · 10-13-2010, 09:14 AM

Barry Bonds should definetly be on your list. He is the greatest hitter of all-time.

Green & Gold Heart · 10-13-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

Barry Larkin is in the Hall of Fame.

Nope Barry Larkin Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

jaxmagicman · 10-13-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Nope Barry Larkin Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

I changed it. I thought he had been elected, so I checked.

CommishJoe · 10-13-2010, 10:00 AM

Don Mattingly 1b would probably import very well.

JWay · 10-13-2010, 10:05 AM

Edgar Martinez!

TribeFanInNC · 10-13-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Dwight Gooden would have had off the charts potential at one time.

Yep, I would pick some guys like this, stars that just didn't have the staying power to get HOF career numbers. Bret Saberhagen is another example.

Another way to think is to find all-star players from bad teams - these types usually didn't garner enough attention to get in the HOF. Blyleven and Tommy John kind of apply here.

If I were doing this, I'd find the best three players in the history of my favorite team not in the HOF. Might be hard if you like Yankees, but otherwise there are plenty of choices.

jaxmagicman · 10-13-2010, 10:54 AM

Or players that had really really good seasons and import from that season.

Like Brady Anderson in his 50 homerun season.

Cole · 10-13-2010, 07:34 PM

Well I made my first selection and didn't take anyone yet suggested here. I grabbed Greg Maddux with the second overall pick. I still think that's a solid selection despite no one mentioning him, no?

I was looking to stock up on arms... Here is how the draft has gone so far:

Pete Rose
Greg Maddux - me.
Barry Bonds
Ken Griffey Jr.
Dwight Gooden
Joe Jackson
Roberto Alomar
Roger Clemens

Another 10 picks before it gets back to me so the field could be thinned considerably by that point.

Thoughts?

Splitter24 · 10-13-2010, 07:43 PM

If you're looking for arms, how about Pedro Martinez?

Cole · 10-13-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Splitter24

If you're looking for arms, how about Pedro Martinez?

Sadly has already been taken, as has my other hopeful second pitcher Randy Johnson.

Time to start digging a little deeper to find my number 2

jbergey22 · 10-13-2010, 10:52 PM

Barry Bonds going #3 was a steal.

Id take Piazza next if he was there. No other catcher came close to his career hitting numbers.

rudel.dietrich · 10-14-2010, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

i think he meant players that didnt take steroids. so that left about 20 good players off the list, and bonds will go in based off his career up to 2002. as will clemens

Bonds in 2002 hit .370/.582/.799

He should import pretty goddamn well

10-13-2010, 12:00 AM	#1
Cole Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick Posts: 2,685	MLB fans - help me out! I am in a fictional MLB league where we are allowed to select three real-life MLB players for our teams who will be imported into the game as 24-year-olds at their maximum potential. These players can be from any era EXCEPT for current players and EXCEPT for Hall of Famers. I don't want to miss anyone, so my question is .. In your opinion who are some of the best MLBers of all time who are now retired but were never in the Hall of Fame? And more specifically, who have good potential rankings when imported into OOTP as well? Thanks.

10-13-2010, 12:10 AM	#2
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Pete Rose. Shoeless Joe Jackson. Mark McGwire. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

10-13-2010, 09:14 AM	#9
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Barry Bonds should definetly be on your list. He is the greatest hitter of all-time. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved. Last edited by jaxmagicman; 10-13-2010 at 09:16 AM.

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CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	Don Mattingly 1b would probably import very well. __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

10-13-2010, 10:54 AM	#15
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Or players that had really really good seasons and import from that season. Like Brady Anderson in his 50 homerun season. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

10-13-2010, 12:32 AM	#3
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	What do you mean max potential? Dwight Gooden would have had off the charts potential at one time. Edgar Martinez was a flat out great hitter if you are using a DH. Mike Piazza was probably the greatest hitting catcher of All time and I dont believe he is HOF eligible yet. Last edited by jbergey22; 10-13-2010 at 12:35 AM.

10-13-2010, 01:00 AM	#5
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe & Bert Blyleven also my all time fav player (see picture)

10-13-2010, 01:06 AM	#6
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Barry Bonds, barry bonds and b. bonds

10-13-2010, 08:37 AM	#8
Moriarty9 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,109	Aside from some pretty good suggestions so far: 1B: Mo Vaughn, Jeff Bagwell, Frank Thomas 2B: Craig Biggio, Roberto Alomar SS: Nomar Garciaparra, Barry Larkin OF: Moises Alou, Jackie Jensen, Jay Buhner, Ken Griffey Jr., Paul O'Neill, Dwight Evans

10-13-2010, 10:05 AM	#13
JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,021	Edgar Martinez!

10-13-2010, 07:34 PM	#16
Cole Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick Posts: 2,685	Well I made my first selection and didn't take anyone yet suggested here. I grabbed Greg Maddux with the second overall pick. I still think that's a solid selection despite no one mentioning him, no? I was looking to stock up on arms... Here is how the draft has gone so far: Pete Rose Greg Maddux - me. Barry Bonds Ken Griffey Jr. Dwight Gooden Joe Jackson Roberto Alomar Roger Clemens Another 10 picks before it gets back to me so the field could be thinned considerably by that point. Thoughts?

10-13-2010, 07:43 PM	#17
Splitter24 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Willsboro, NY Posts: 2,895	If you're looking for arms, how about Pedro Martinez? __________________ Currently Reading: The Sympathizer by Viet Thanh Nguyen "Well, the game is afoot. I’ll take anal bum cover for 7,000." - "Sean Connery" SNL Celebrity Jeopardy R.I.P. Tommy Holmes 1917-2008

10-13-2010, 10:52 PM	#19
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	Barry Bonds going #3 was a steal. Id take Piazza next if he was there. No other catcher came close to his career hitting numbers.