Episode 3: How to Fix the...NCAAF

MorseMoose · 01-02-2010, 01:17 PM

Here it is...Episode 3 of "How to Fix the..."

Just like before (here are the rules):

In a series of episodes, the first being the NFL, the second being the MLB, and now NCAA Football take this thread and "Fix" the NCAA Football. Propose changes and allow others to discuss/critique/disagree/agree/modify/whatever. Your ideas can be as minor as a small rule change to major realignment. Go as in-depth or as shallow as you want. A suggestion - not one you have to follow, just a thought - keep one major idea per post so it's easier to see new ideas. When this thread has run it's course (two weeks or so), I'll (or someone - not mgom) can throw up an Episode 4.

jazzrack · 01-02-2010, 01:43 PM

get rid of the stupid overtime rules, id rather the games ended in a tie than watch that gimmick.

Tony M · 01-02-2010, 01:56 PM

Episode 3a: How to fix the thread title to be correct

MorseMoose · 01-02-2010, 02:41 PM

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Episode 3a: How to fix the thread title to be correct

What's wrong with it?

Tony M · 01-02-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

What's wrong with it?

You had Episode 2

Tony M · 01-02-2010, 02:57 PM

Assuming NCAAF is the American version of football as opposed to the English version of football, in what way does it vary from NFL football? Is this the thing where standings are partly decided by what sportswriters think the teams should do?

damientheomen3 · 01-02-2010, 03:05 PM

get rid of the hypocracy factor, by paying players for their likenesses for the video games. The NCAA wouldn't be able to complain about not enough money either, since they get like 50 kajillion dollars while the players get nothing.

MorseMoose · 01-02-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony M

You had Episode 2

Gotcha...thanks greatly

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ry1220 · 01-02-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by damientheomen3

get rid of the hypocracy factor, by paying players for their likenesses for the video games. The NCAA wouldn't be able to complain about not enough money either, since they get like 50 kajillion dollars while the players get nothing.

The point of college sports is that they're not professionals. Some guys do make it big, most won't. You can't forget that NCAA is more than D-I. How is it fair that guys who go to Florida get paid because they're on CBS, but guys who go to Cornell don't. Both are student-athletes.

I do agree that there really shouldn't be any lawsuit against EA or the NCAA for likenesses in the NCAA Football series, but I don't think paying players is the solution.

To fix College Football: I'm one of the few people who think the current bowl system is adequate enough. I also feel that mid-major teams don't deserve a shot at a National Championship. You want respect? Play in the tougher divisions, where each game is a challenge.

norva13x · 01-02-2010, 04:03 PM

How about valuing education more then winning football games. I love college sports but it seems some schools care more about winning games then providing a good education for the athletes.

Lucas718 · 01-02-2010, 05:02 PM

A playoff system would be a good start. It sucks that 5 teams can go undefeated but only 2 of them get a chance to play for the championship.

Cryomaniac · 01-02-2010, 05:55 PM

There are a couple of things that come to mind, both of which have already been mentioned. Overtime needs to change. Either make it like the NFL or get rid of it. Secondly, the NEEDS to be a playoff. The BCS is the biggest loads of bull in sports.

jbergey22 · 01-02-2010, 06:31 PM

Let the NCAA make the schedules so we dont get all these small conference pretenders in all of these big games just to see a complete mismatch like last night.

We basically had to give up 2 great games this year in order to satisfy the small school(underdog) supporters.

Matching up Florida and Cincy was just a big "FU" to all of the people that criticize their system.

Eric · 01-02-2010, 06:36 PM

Have each conference have a championship to whittle down the field of eligible championships. It will also ensure the high ranked teams play a quality opponent without the dreaded "playoff" word.

I don't have a solution on a path for a team from a mid-major conference be in the championship hunt. Perhaps having a third-party schedule non-conference games. Having the NCAA do it will probably wind up deferring to what the BCS conferences will want anyways.

ry1220 · 01-02-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Let the NCAA make the schedules so we dont get all these small conference pretenders in all of these big games just to see a complete mismatch like last night.

We basically had to give up 2 great games this year in order to satisfy the small school(underdog) supporters.

Schedules? As in regular season? Or Bowls?

I think that seeing the mismatch last night, those who believe that mid-majors and weaker Conference undefeateds should stay out of the BCS Bowl Games have some ammunition against those TCU- and Boise-backers.

jbergey22 · 01-02-2010, 06:43 PM

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Schedules? As in regular season? Or Bowls?

I think that seeing the mismatch last night, those who believe that mid-majors and weaker Conference undefeateds should stay out of the BCS Bowl Games have some ammunition against those TCU- and Boise-backers.

Regular season. The system they have wont make people happy until they can actually prove that teams like TCU and Boise St arent capable of competing at the highest level.

ry1220 · 01-02-2010, 06:55 PM

What if the top few teams from mid-major conferences, such as this year's TCU and Boise (and maybe even Cincy) would get to play, not the BCS conference champions, but like the Iowas, LSUs, Mizzous, et cetera, who finished like 2nd or 3rd in their "Powerhouse" Conferences in the regular season the following year?

That is, for example, schedule a yearly regular season week b/w the winner of the WAC and Runner-Up of the Big 12, for example.

This way important Bowl games aren't ruined by experiment, or upset. The Big Teams can still save face, and the Small Teams get a chance to play a Big Team.

jbergey22 · 01-02-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ry1220

What if the top few teams from mid-major conferences, such as this year's TCU and Boise (and maybe even Cincy) would get to play, not the BCS conference champions, but like the Iowas, LSUs, Mizzous, et cetera, who finished like 2nd or 3rd in their "Powerhouse" Conferences in the regular season the following year?

That is, for example, schedule a yearly regular season week b/w the winner of the WAC and Runner-Up of the Big 12, for example.

This way important Bowl games aren't ruined by experiment, or upset. The Big Teams can still save face, and the Small Teams get a chance to play a Big Team.

I like the way you think. The small teams would get atleast 1 home game against one of these teams as well.

I think it is BS that some of these BCS conference teams turn down a home and home series against the Boises and TCUs.

ry1220 · 01-02-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

I like the way you think. The small teams would get atleast 1 home game against one of these teams as well.

I think it is BS that some of these BCS conference teams turn down a home and home series against the Boises and TCUs.

The college football season is too short to do a home-and-away series. I feel the Big Teams should get the home field advantage if this situation come to light. Heck, the Small Teams should be glad to get a chance to play a Big Team.

EDIT2: Another Idea: Eliminate D-IA schools from playing D-IAA schools (like mine: UD). This week could then be used to play the inter-conference games. IAA schools should be kept separate from IA schools, they lose "all" of the time anyway. It astonishes me that a team like Michigan would put itself out there to lose to App. State, yet not to an actual D-IA school, like Boise.

jbergey22 · 01-02-2010, 07:08 PM

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The college football season is too short to do a home and home series. If feel the Big Teams should get the home field advantage. Heck, the Small Teams should be glad to get a chance to play a Big Team.

I was talking about what they do now. Boise will call up a team like Mississippi(just an example) and ask them if they will accept a home game one year and a road game the next year. They usually get refused.

Home field is such a huge advantage I think they should get atleast 1 home game against a BCS conference school a year. If the system wants to truely prove who the best team is they need to make things as fair as possible.

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MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Episode 3: How to Fix the...NCAAF Here it is...Episode 3 of "How to Fix the..." Just like before (here are the rules): In a series of episodes, the first being the NFL, the second being the MLB, and now NCAA Football take this thread and "Fix" the NCAA Football. Propose changes and allow others to discuss/critique/disagree/agree/modify/whatever. Your ideas can be as minor as a small rule change to major realignment. Go as in-depth or as shallow as you want. A suggestion - not one you have to follow, just a thought - keep one major idea per post so it's easier to see new ideas. When this thread has run it's course (two weeks or so), I'll (or someone - not mgom) can throw up an Episode 4.

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Cryomaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hucknall, Notts, UK Posts: 4,902	There are a couple of things that come to mind, both of which have already been mentioned. Overtime needs to change. Either make it like the NFL or get rid of it. Secondly, the NEEDS to be a playoff. The BCS is the biggest loads of bull in sports. __________________

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norva13x Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 476	How about valuing education more then winning football games. I love college sports but it seems some schools care more about winning games then providing a good education for the athletes.

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Lucas718 Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 402	A playoff system would be a good start. It sucks that 5 teams can go undefeated but only 2 of them get a chance to play for the championship.

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jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	Let the NCAA make the schedules so we dont get all these small conference pretenders in all of these big games just to see a complete mismatch like last night. We basically had to give up 2 great games this year in order to satisfy the small school(underdog) supporters. Matching up Florida and Cincy was just a big "FU" to all of the people that criticize their system. Last edited by jbergey22; 01-02-2010 at 06:40 PM.

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Eric All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 1,234	Have each conference have a championship to whittle down the field of eligible championships. It will also ensure the high ranked teams play a quality opponent without the dreaded "playoff" word. I don't have a solution on a path for a team from a mid-major conference be in the championship hunt. Perhaps having a third-party schedule non-conference games. Having the NCAA do it will probably wind up deferring to what the BCS conferences will want anyways.

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ry1220 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 818	What if the top few teams from mid-major conferences, such as this year's TCU and Boise (and maybe even Cincy) would get to play, not the BCS conference champions, but like the Iowas, LSUs, Mizzous, et cetera, who finished like 2nd or 3rd in their "Powerhouse" Conferences in the regular season the following year? That is, for example, schedule a yearly regular season week b/w the winner of the WAC and Runner-Up of the Big 12, for example. This way important Bowl games aren't ruined by experiment, or upset. The Big Teams can still save face, and the Small Teams get a chance to play a Big Team.