Suspension in Spring Training

skjohnson2 · 06-08-2009, 01:23 PM

I had a player suspended for 4 games early in Spring Training. He was unable to play for any of the rest of Spring Training and still had a 4 game suspension when the regular season started.

Is this true to the way it would be handled in real life?

SteveP · 06-08-2009, 01:25 PM

I don't know the answer to your question. However, I turn suspensions off, and set injuries to low or very low during Spring Training. You could turn injuries off, but that would take some of the realism away.

endgame · 06-08-2009, 01:31 PM

I'll have to check my facts, but I think suspensions apply to the season and not ST. As such the suspension would begin then. I only vaguely remember this being discussed, but it wasn't so long ago that a search may not bring it up with a little effort.

actionjackson · 06-08-2009, 01:41 PM

See spring training 2008: NYY Shelley Duncan's "slide" into Aki Iwamura of the Rays. Duncan and Melky Cabrera were suspended for 3 games each, while Jonny Gomes got 2. All the suspensions were slated to begin at the start of the regular season that year. There have been others to be sure, but that's the only one I could come up with off the top of my head. So, the answer to your question is yes.

jabrown6940 · 06-08-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

So, the answer to your question is yes.

BUt what about the spring training games. Shouldn't the player be able to play those?

skjohnson2 · 06-08-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jabrown6940

BUt what about the spring training games. Shouldn't the player be able to play those?

That's was my question... I think it's right to suspend 4 regular season games, but if that's where the suspension is applied, the player should be able to participate in the remainder of spring training.

I was trying to test a marginal player... wasn't able to do it.

OldFatGuy · 06-08-2009, 11:32 PM

If you're asking how it is in real life, then I'm pretty sure the player can play in ST, and starts his suspension in the regular season.

J.C. Romero of the Phillies was suspended 50 games for violating the PED rules this past offseason, around December or January. And I think he pitched in both the World Baseball Classic and the Phillies spring training, but began serving his suspension on opening day, IIRC. In fact, I think he just returned very recently to the Phillies, having served his 50 days.

kingpin1976 · 06-08-2009, 11:50 PM

This is an unfixed error in 9 also.
I believe all suspensions are intended for regular season games IRL.
Unless its a PED suspension dont know how that's ruled.

Giants44 · 06-09-2009, 01:51 AM

I think we have a bug.

I had a pitched suspended on the last game of the season for 7 games. He did not pitch in one inning in ST despite being listed in the starting rotation and then was ineligible for the first 7 games of the regular season.

endgame · 06-10-2009, 01:42 PM

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OldFatGuy · 06-10-2009, 02:01 PM

This ESPN article, regarding J. C. Romero confirms, I believe, that players suspended can in fact play in spring training games.

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He is permitted to participate in all spring-training drills and exhibition games. But he won't be allowed to pitch during the regular season until June 1.

NYY #23 · 02-25-2010, 09:10 AM

If you think that is bad I had a suspension on the last day of the season, with my team headed to the playoffs. He was forced to sit out the playoffs.

bwburke94 · 02-27-2010, 01:26 PM

Even Alomar was allowed to play in the playoffs when he spit in that umpire's face.

06-08-2009, 01:23 PM	#1
skjohnson2 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 16	Suspension in Spring Training I had a player suspended for 4 games early in Spring Training. He was unable to play for any of the rest of Spring Training and still had a 4 game suspension when the regular season started. Is this true to the way it would be handled in real life?

06-08-2009, 01:31 PM	#3
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	I'll have to check my facts, but I think suspensions apply to the season and not ST. As such the suspension would begin then. I only vaguely remember this being discussed, but it wasn't so long ago that a search may not bring it up with a little effort. __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

06-08-2009, 11:32 PM	#7
OldFatGuy All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Va., Loudoun County Posts: 1,896	If you're asking how it is in real life, then I'm pretty sure the player can play in ST, and starts his suspension in the regular season. J.C. Romero of the Phillies was suspended 50 games for violating the PED rules this past offseason, around December or January. And I think he pitched in both the World Baseball Classic and the Phillies spring training, but began serving his suspension on opening day, IIRC. In fact, I think he just returned very recently to the Phillies, having served his 50 days. __________________ I believed in drug testing a long time ago. In the 60's I tested everything. - Bill Lee

06-09-2009, 01:51 AM	#9
Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 2,408	I think we have a bug. I had a pitched suspended on the last game of the season for 7 games. He did not pitch in one inning in ST despite being listed in the starting rotation and then was ineligible for the first 7 games of the regular season. __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah

06-10-2009, 01:42 PM	#10
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	Logged as BZ 3229 __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

06-08-2009, 01:25 PM	#2
SteveP Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,109	I don't know the answer to your question. However, I turn suspensions off, and set injuries to low or very low during Spring Training. You could turn injuries off, but that would take some of the realism away.

06-08-2009, 01:41 PM	#4
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,181	See spring training 2008: NYY Shelley Duncan's "slide" into Aki Iwamura of the Rays. Duncan and Melky Cabrera were suspended for 3 games each, while Jonny Gomes got 2. All the suspensions were slated to begin at the start of the regular season that year. There have been others to be sure, but that's the only one I could come up with off the top of my head. So, the answer to your question is yes.

06-08-2009, 11:50 PM	#8
kingpin1976 Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 402	This is an unfixed error in 9 also. I believe all suspensions are intended for regular season games IRL. Unless its a PED suspension dont know how that's ruled.

02-25-2010, 09:10 AM	#12
NYY #23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 13,112	If you think that is bad I had a suspension on the last day of the season, with my team headed to the playoffs. He was forced to sit out the playoffs.

02-27-2010, 01:26 PM	#13
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,512	Even Alomar was allowed to play in the playoffs when he spit in that umpire's face.