Are stolen bases affected by pitcher hold, catcher arm?

[jar2574]

If I remember correctly, in OOTP 9, success rates on stolen bases were not affected by pitcher's holding ability or catcher's arm strength.

Has this been fixed?

I ask because in my first fictional season, the guy with a 12 arm threw out a much higher % than the guy with an 18 arm.

Also, I saw absolutely no correlation between holding ratings and stolen base % against my 4 starting pitchers. The guy with an 18 holding rating gave up the highest % of stolen bases and the guy with a low holding rate was the most successful at keeping runners honest.

I know it's a small sample size though. Anybody know whether holding rate and cather arm strength actually impact stolen bases?

[satchel]

Originally Posted by jar2574

If I remember correctly, in OOTP 9, success rates on stolen bases were not affected by pitcher's holding ability or catcher's arm strength.

A pitcher's hold rating might not affect success rate, but it decreases total attempts.

[jar2574]

Originally Posted by satchel

A pitcher's hold rating might not affect success rate, but it decreases total attempts.

Okay, thanks, that's good news.

[SteveP]

And the catcher's arm rating does not affect attempts, but does affect success.

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by SteveP

And the catcher's arm rating does not affect attempts, but does affect success.

I'm not sure about this. I had 2 catchers last year. One has an arm of 13 out of 20, the other has a 23 out of 20.

Catcher one played just over 900 innings and had 98 SB atts against him. Catcher 2 played just over 600 innings and had 5 SB atts against him. Both had the same pitchers. I'd be glad to put a screenshot up of them if needed.

[SteveP]

Originally Posted by StyxNCa

I'm not sure about this. I had 2 catchers last year. One has an arm of 13 out of 20, the other has a 23 out of 20.

Catcher one played just over 900 innings and had 98 SB atts against him. Catcher 2 played just over 600 innings and had 5 SB atts against him. Both had the same pitchers. I'd be glad to put a screenshot up of them if needed.

Someone -- I think it was Ronco -- actually collected serious data on this, so that's what I am going by. My own observations seem to support his conclusions. However, IIRC, he did say that he found arm rating made a difference when it was over 20 (i.e., more than 200 on the 250 scale). So that seems consistent with what you found.

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by SteveP

Someone -- I think it was Ronco -- actually collected serious data on this, so that's what I am going by. My own observations seem to support his conclusions. However, IIRC, he did say that he found arm rating made a difference when it was over 20 (i.e., more than 200 on the 250 scale). So that seems consistent with what you found.

And this is why catcher #2 is my full time starter this year, especially since the Jan 1 adjustments turned this season into a heavy base stealing season. So far, in 48 innings, there have been 2 atts where catcher #1 had 5 in 17 innings.

Now, if people like Johnny Bench and Jerry Grote could import into a 1969 season with better than average arms it would be nice.