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Old 02-11-2009, 07:34 PM   #1
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Couple Questions

1. I'm curious about potential ratings. I'm trying the demo out and I see that Maine is only a 42 and Pelfrey is at a 20, can potential ratings jump up huge and bring these guys to where they should be.....or are they destined to suck because they are at the bottom? I'm using the 0-100 scale by the way.

I shopped Billy Wagner around and I got 3 diff offers of minor league players who were all at 20 potential.....is there other things I should look at beside that rating to see if any of these guys are a diamond in the rough?

2. Why are the salaries out and out wrong for some players? Wagner doesn't make 3 mill and Brian Schneider isn't making the league minimum and Santana isn't making 12 mill a year.

3. Why aren't real coaches name used?

4. What does it mean to shortlist?

That's it for now....

Thanks to any who answer...

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Old 02-11-2009, 08:20 PM   #2
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I've been reading up more on the game and apparently it plays better with fantasy players. How do I check this option when creating a league...I see everything else...but not this?
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:41 PM   #3
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I've been reading up more on the game and apparently it plays better with fantasy players. How do I check this option when creating a league...I see everything else...but not this?
Did you read this manual?

OOTP Baseball Manual - Creating Custom Games via Wizard

I personally like Fictional, but there are lot of people who play MLB style games.
They should be able to help you better with the questions in your first post.
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:54 PM   #4
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1. I'm curious about potential ratings. I'm trying the demo out and I see that Maine is only a 42 and Pelfrey is at a 20, can potential ratings jump up huge and bring these guys to where they should be.....or are they destined to suck because they are at the bottom? I'm using the 0-100 scale by the way.

I shopped Billy Wagner around and I got 3 diff offers of minor league players who were all at 20 potential.....is there other things I should look at beside that rating to see if any of these guys are a diamond in the rough?

2. Why are the salaries out and out wrong for some players? Wagner doesn't make 3 mill and Brian Schneider isn't making the league minimum and Santana isn't making 12 mill a year.

3. Why aren't real coaches name used?

4. What does it mean to shortlist?

That's it for now....

Thanks to any who answer...
Well, I try to answer to some of your questions, but I am not really a MLB style game player, so bare with me.

Regarding the MLB roster:

All the MLB rosters for OOTP (including the one that comes with the game) is created by the users around here. As you may know, the game does not have the liscense for using real MLB players/coaches names.
So, keep in mind that all the MLB rosters are their voluntary effort.
You may not like some of the ratings for certain playes, but you can always edit them by yourself, in the commissioner mode.
Many (most) of the player salaries do not match the RL, but I guess they are what they are to balance the total game financial.
Also, I think you only get 20 overall rating players for Wagner, because of his age, his salary. You could change the AI trading settings in game option so that AI favors veterans more. (However, I personally think it is realistic that nobody wants Wagner for their prospects...)

Regarding player shortlist:

OOTP Baseball Manual - Player / Staff Search & Shortlist

I hope you overall enjoy the game, Prime Time!
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:18 PM   #5
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another question....if i go the fictional player route....i always start with an inaugural player draft of the whole league?
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:26 PM   #6
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another question....if i go the fictional player route....i always start with an inaugural player draft of the whole league?
No, I do not think you do, Prime Time.

OOTP Baseball Manual - Inaugural Drafts

Even with the wizard game creation, I believe you have the option to either have/do not have the inaugural draft.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:25 AM   #7
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No, I do not think you do, Prime Time.

OOTP Baseball Manual - Inaugural Drafts

Even with the wizard game creation, I believe you have the option to either have/do not have the inaugural draft.
Ok....

Now I did standard teams and standard minor league affiliates...

why is my draft 325 rounds when it should be 150?

and another question...I chose the Mets....and just auto drafted and now for some reason I'm in a tiny market? with barely no budget....is there a way to choose this before u start the league? It looks like some teams have the proper markets and budgets and then you have teams like the Royals and Pirates with the biggest budgets in the league....and it seems as if only 7 of my players contracts were done by the computer and the rest of my guys are unsigned?

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Ok....

Now I did standard teams and standard minor league affiliates...

why is my draft 325 rounds when it should be 150?

and another question...I chose the Mets....and just auto drafted and now for some reason I'm in a tiny market? with barely no budget....is there a way to choose this before u start the league? It looks like some teams have the proper markets and budgets and then you have teams like the Royals and Pirates with the biggest budgets in the league....and it seems as if only 7 of my players contracts were done by the computer and the rest of my guys are unsigned?
As long as I know, there is no way to set the market sizes/budgets before the inaugural draft. They will be set according to the players you draft. (Players salaries, poplularity etc)
What you wanna probably do is, to set the market sizes, fan loyalties, team budgets, media fees manually after the draft, if you want them to be realistic.

When I wanna make the game look more realistic, I usually handle the inaugural draft manually, (all the teams) for first 25 rounds or so, so that you can assign the better players with higher MLB service years to the teams like NYY, or NYM, LAD, BOS, to make their salaries/market sizes bigger. And auto sim for about 10 years to create some history, and then take over one of the teams as a GM.

For the draft # of rounds, you should be able to set the # of rounds in the game creation wizard, or you could change them at the Rules Page, in preseason.

OOTP Baseball Manual - Rules Page
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As long as I know, there is no way to set the market sizes/budgets before the inaugural draft. They will be set according to the players you draft. (Players salaries, poplularity etc)
What you wanna probably do is, to set the market sizes, fan loyalties, team budgets, media fees manually after the draft, if you want them to be realistic.

When I wanna make the game look more realistic, I usually handle the inaugural draft manually, (all the teams) for first 25 rounds or so, so that you can assign the better players with higher MLB service years to the teams like NYY, or NYM, LAD, BOS, to make their salaries/market sizes bigger. And auto sim for about 10 years to create some history, and then take over one of the teams as a GM.

For the draft # of rounds, you should be able to set the # of rounds in the game creation wizard, or you could change them at the Rules Page, in preseason.

OOTP Baseball Manual - Rules Page
Couple more questions....while I got you around....

1. Now how does the potential ratings work? Will some of these young guys with 20 potentials just blossom into stars with much higher potential over time...or are they doomed to suck?

2. ....and how do I manually go and edit other teams market sizes now...i dont even know how to do that for my own lol?

3. Now is it possible to start a fictional league/fictional players with prior franchise history? Like could I start one where each team has the correct amount of World Series championships and will there be all-time records to chase?
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Couple more questions....while I got you around....

1. Now how does the potential ratings work? Will some of these young guys with 20 potentials just blossom into stars with much higher potential over time...or are they doomed to suck?

It really depends...
I have seen 1 star potential player becomes like 2~3 actual rating player in my league, (Sorry, I use star overall ratings) but I have not seen 1 star potential player becomes 5 star (maximum) actual rating player before. It could be possible, but it's gotta be very very rare at least. Player development has a lot to do with their work ethic ratings, intelligence ratings, or even leedership ratings. I think you have to look closely at those ratings of the players. Also, when to move up (promote) or demote players when they are still young has a lot to do with how they develop.

You should read these from the manual.

OOTP Baseball Manual - Player Development

OOTP Baseball Manual - Player Personalities

2. ....and how do I manually go and edit other teams market sizes now...i dont even know how to do that for my own lol?

Go to the commissioner mode at the manager option page, and then look at your team's front office page. Hit the edit financial button at the bottom of the page.
Read this part of the manual, and edit them to your taste.

OOTP Baseball Manual - Finances

If you are a commissioner of the league, you can edit financial of all the teams in the league.

3. Now is it possible to start a fictional league/fictional players with prior franchise history? Like could I start one where each team has the correct amount of World Series championships and will there be all-time records to chase?
You could do it by using one of the real player rosters out there, and set your annual draft so that the rookies will be fictional players after 2009. So many OOTP players chose to play the game this way, I think)

Some real players roster sets are available out there, but I think this one created by Cubby Fan has great reputations, and I believe is almost ready to play... (At the final stage of creation)

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...se-thread.html

* You better read through the thread before using this roster set, as apparently it is not completed yet, and some people still have the "game crash" issues with the roster.
(I do not really play with the real player rosters anymore, so you'd have to ask someone else for the details etc regarding the roster set!)
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