Hocky +/-

twins15 · 11-29-2002, 05:42 PM

Can anyone explain to me what the +/- in hockey is? I always see that my the player's name, but what is it?

SoxWin · 11-29-2002, 05:47 PM

It only counts for even strength goals (not powerplay or shorthanded) and is pretty basic.

If you're on the ice when your team scores a goal you get +1

If you're on the ice when your team gives up a goal you get -1

It's an extremely simplistic way of gauging a players defensive capabilities/awareness.

Rich

MJohnson · 11-29-2002, 06:38 PM

actually, you also get +1 if you team scores shorthanded and get -1 if your team gives up a shorthanded goal

Long_Long_Name · 11-29-2002, 11:32 PM

That number is not always a good way to evaluate a player's capabilities. It's largely influenced by the team for which you play. The same defenseman could have a really high score in Detroit, and have a really low one with Toronto (hehe!).

JAttractive · 11-30-2002, 12:40 AM

Good point, it is also influenced heavily by your linemates and the situations you are put out on. If you are a defensive superstar who is always set out to try and shut down the opposing teams best players you may still have a poor +/- because even at the best of times they will find ways to beat you here and there. Still it can be a useful comparison between player's if you take these things into consideration especially player's on the same team or when compared relative to their team.

sixto · 12-01-2002, 10:25 PM

A player on my fantasy team was -4 the other night - and the opponent only scored 4 goals. Yanic Perreault I think it was, but I sure don't follow hockey. Bad or unlucky? You decide.

Long_Long_Name · 12-02-2002, 11:31 AM

Yeah, it was a terrible game for the Habs. A lot of guys on the team had -4.

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SoxWin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Blissful ignorance Posts: 3,315	It only counts for even strength goals (not powerplay or shorthanded) and is pretty basic. If you're on the ice when your team scores a goal you get +1 If you're on the ice when your team gives up a goal you get -1 It's an extremely simplistic way of gauging a players defensive capabilities/awareness. Rich __________________ It's called partying. When you do a lot of it, you're bound to be places where the police show up. I smoke a lot of pot and drink a lot of beer. I also graduated Suma Cum Laude. ****ing sue me. - Luis Rivera

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Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	That number is not always a good way to evaluate a player's capabilities. It's largely influenced by the team for which you play. The same defenseman could have a really high score in Detroit, and have a really low one with Toronto (hehe!). __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

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Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	Yeah, it was a terrible game for the Habs. A lot of guys on the team had -4. __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

11-29-2002, 06:38 PM	#3
MJohnson Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: under an overpass Posts: 459	actually, you also get +1 if you team scores shorthanded and get -1 if your team gives up a shorthanded goal

11-30-2002, 12:40 AM	#5
JAttractive All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Catharines, Ontario Posts: 1,135	Good point, it is also influenced heavily by your linemates and the situations you are put out on. If you are a defensive superstar who is always set out to try and shut down the opposing teams best players you may still have a poor +/- because even at the best of times they will find ways to beat you here and there. Still it can be a useful comparison between player's if you take these things into consideration especially player's on the same team or when compared relative to their team.

12-01-2002, 10:25 PM	#6
sixto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,271	A player on my fantasy team was -4 the other night - and the opponent only scored 4 goals. Yanic Perreault I think it was, but I sure don't follow hockey. Bad or unlucky? You decide.