Need some first year player draft tips

GmOfTheYear · 12-19-2008, 01:28 AM

Do the scouting tips really help? It seems for all the players in the first round they say great things and then for all the lower players they say bad things yet this doesnt really help cause some guy in the 26th round can be a starter in a year and then the number one pick can be horrible. So how do I know who to draft? Does anyone draft for the whole 30 rounds or simulate?

I just dont know who to draft cause they all seem to be bad players. Like .5 star players and stuff. Potential doesnt seem to mean much cause my first round pick after a year turned out to be a 1 star potential after being a 5 star one when i drafted him. So any draft tips?

Jaxxvain · 12-19-2008, 12:03 PM

loaded question.

Need more info:

scouting on or off?
if on, how good is he?
coaching on or off?
if on, how good are the coaches that the stud played for
did the stud get hurt?
was he placed at the right level? (this is subjective)
etc.

Isura · 12-20-2008, 04:03 PM

First 5 rounds I look for best potential. After that I try to choose the best player. Guys with all 1's rating tend to be high school players who often flame out. You can do well in later rounds drafting guys with 2-3 ratings and lower potential. They can blossom into useful ML players. But even in the MLB draft it's pretty hit and miss after round 1. Lower round players can become superstars in the game because of talent fluctuations

GmOfTheYear · 12-20-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxxvain

loaded question.

Need more info:

scouting on or off?
if on, how good is he?
coaching on or off?
if on, how good are the coaches that the stud played for
did the stud get hurt?
was he placed at the right level? (this is subjective)
etc.

Scouting is on
Like one guy i drafted was 5 star potential and then busted.
Coaching is on. My coaches are good.
Do you mean put him in like single a for year then double then triple? I have minor league managers managing all the lineups and demotions.

Also I notice that hitting seems to dominate. The leading hitter is hitting 400 and eras are so high too. Any known way to get the stats more realistic? This reminds me of mlb2k9 when the same hitting domination started.

sayheykid · 12-20-2008, 09:15 PM

It's always a crap shoot, but in the early rounds I like college players with high intelligence and good work ethic. Each round I will ask for my scouting directors recomendation and start the review from there. I also tend to see what kind of quality prospects I already have in my minors. If I already have 6 2B in R and A ball, a new prospect probably won't get much playing time. However, I know what you mean. I have had a number of late round pitchers make it to the ML in just a few years. (Also I latched onto a scout with 20's across the board.)

Jaxxvain · 12-23-2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GmOfTheYear

Scouting is on
Like one guy i drafted was 5 star potential and then busted.
Coaching is on. My coaches are good.
Do you mean put him in like single a for year then double then triple? I have minor league managers managing all the lineups and demotions.

Also I notice that hitting seems to dominate. The leading hitter is hitting 400 and eras are so high too. Any known way to get the stats more realistic? This reminds me of mlb2k9 when the same hitting domination started.

One guy busting out is not a big enough sample to determine anything useful.
It could be simple randomness. Top picks flameout all the time, less so in OOTP then real life probably, but they still do.

As far as what league he goes in, it is very subjective. I check his current ratings and if they are not all red, I usually bump him one level from the bottom. If he plays well for a month (or goes nuts for two weeks even) I will strongly consider bumping him up again. If he performs poorly, I usually try to stick with him, unless he is significantly young for the level he is at. I may have ruined some guys doing this, but who is to say they were not going to ruin themselves even if they started out at a lower level. The plus side is the guys who perform well move right through your minors in a year or two.

As for hitting dominating, it could be a few different things. I don't know much about setting the stat modifiers, so I would first start with upping the development speed of pitching, and perhaps slowing the aging speed for pitchers as well.

sayheykid · 12-30-2008, 09:39 AM

How about this for an interesting result? In the 2013 draft, round 30, pick 30 (last player chosen) I drafted a reliever with potential of stuff 2, movement 3 & control 3. He made the show in 2017 and was in the all star game in 2018. His name is Carl Perfect and he has a record of 10-0 with an ERA of 2.78. His ratings are now S 16, M 12, C 15.

phightin · 12-31-2008, 03:44 PM

The Billy Beane Philosophy, older college players potential are much more accurate than younger teenagers. The same holds true in the game.

JackRules1 · 01-05-2009, 09:30 AM

So far I draft on potential mostly. I manually draft the first 10 rounds and take my scout's recomendation for probably 8 out of 10 picks. Then I autodraft the rest. But I like sayheykid's approach so might look a bit more at college players with intelligence and work ethic. I always shortlist my top 10 so I can keep an eye on them.

sayheykid · 01-05-2009, 09:55 AM

I'm finally getting a lot of draft picks making it to the show, and the 1 common factor seems to be intelligence.

Pdubya64 · 01-07-2009, 09:10 AM

Don't forget that regardless of whether you take the Scouting Director's advice for a given pick, the current and potential ratings you are looking at and basing decisions on are his. Thus, if you have a poor or mediocre SD (ratings-wise), don't expect to have accurate guesses as to whether the projections are on target.
My very first move when starting a game is normally to fire the existing SD and hire a more reputable replacement. Otherwise you are compounding the already difficult task of molding ML players from rookies.

Everything you see wrt player ratings is based off your Scouting Director's capability. When you replace the SD prior to the season starting, I find you have to put all player decisions off until the first day of April when the new SD provides his first comprehensive scouting report on everyone. Until then you are operating based on old information from the prior SD.

Have fun!

12-19-2008, 01:28 AM	#1
GmOfTheYear Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 402	Need some first year player draft tips Do the scouting tips really help? It seems for all the players in the first round they say great things and then for all the lower players they say bad things yet this doesnt really help cause some guy in the 26th round can be a starter in a year and then the number one pick can be horrible. So how do I know who to draft? Does anyone draft for the whole 30 rounds or simulate? I just dont know who to draft cause they all seem to be bad players. Like .5 star players and stuff. Potential doesnt seem to mean much cause my first round pick after a year turned out to be a 1 star potential after being a 5 star one when i drafted him. So any draft tips?

01-07-2009, 09:10 AM	#11
Pdubya64 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Staunton, VA Posts: 497	Word to the wise Don't forget that regardless of whether you take the Scouting Director's advice for a given pick, the current and potential ratings you are looking at and basing decisions on are his. Thus, if you have a poor or mediocre SD (ratings-wise), don't expect to have accurate guesses as to whether the projections are on target. My very first move when starting a game is normally to fire the existing SD and hire a more reputable replacement. Otherwise you are compounding the already difficult task of molding ML players from rookies. Everything you see wrt player ratings is based off your Scouting Director's capability. When you replace the SD prior to the season starting, I find you have to put all player decisions off until the first day of April when the new SD provides his first comprehensive scouting report on everyone. Until then you are operating based on old information from the prior SD. Have fun!

12-19-2008, 12:03 PM	#2
Jaxxvain All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 531	loaded question. Need more info: scouting on or off? if on, how good is he? coaching on or off? if on, how good are the coaches that the stud played for did the stud get hurt? was he placed at the right level? (this is subjective) etc.

12-20-2008, 04:03 PM	#3
Isura Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 361	First 5 rounds I look for best potential. After that I try to choose the best player. Guys with all 1's rating tend to be high school players who often flame out. You can do well in later rounds drafting guys with 2-3 ratings and lower potential. They can blossom into useful ML players. But even in the MLB draft it's pretty hit and miss after round 1. Lower round players can become superstars in the game because of talent fluctuations

12-20-2008, 09:15 PM	#5
sayheykid Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 79	It's always a crap shoot, but in the early rounds I like college players with high intelligence and good work ethic. Each round I will ask for my scouting directors recomendation and start the review from there. I also tend to see what kind of quality prospects I already have in my minors. If I already have 6 2B in R and A ball, a new prospect probably won't get much playing time. However, I know what you mean. I have had a number of late round pitchers make it to the ML in just a few years. (Also I latched onto a scout with 20's across the board.)

12-30-2008, 09:39 AM	#7
sayheykid Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 79	How about this for an interesting result? In the 2013 draft, round 30, pick 30 (last player chosen) I drafted a reliever with potential of stuff 2, movement 3 & control 3. He made the show in 2017 and was in the all star game in 2018. His name is Carl Perfect and he has a record of 10-0 with an ERA of 2.78. His ratings are now S 16, M 12, C 15.

12-31-2008, 03:44 PM	#8
phightin All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 586	The Billy Beane Philosophy, older college players potential are much more accurate than younger teenagers. The same holds true in the game.

01-05-2009, 09:30 AM	#9
JackRules1 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 245	So far I draft on potential mostly. I manually draft the first 10 rounds and take my scout's recomendation for probably 8 out of 10 picks. Then I autodraft the rest. But I like sayheykid's approach so might look a bit more at college players with intelligence and work ethic. I always shortlist my top 10 so I can keep an eye on them.

01-05-2009, 09:55 AM	#10
sayheykid Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 79	I'm finally getting a lot of draft picks making it to the show, and the 1 common factor seems to be intelligence.