Player Development question...

Soze · 10-13-2008, 02:24 PM

I'm in a league that does not use coaches or scouts... any ideas on how to really know when a player is ready to contribute at the major league level? Example... I have a SP in AAA that is 15-3 with a 2.90 ERA just past the ML all-star break. I would like to bring him up and replace AJ Burnett, who is 4-14 with an ERA over 7.

With that being said... will sending AJ to AAA help him improve?

I'm trying to understand how players improve or decline at various points in their careers?

1998 Yankees · 10-14-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Soze

I'm in a league that does not use coaches or scouts... any ideas on how to really know when a player is ready to contribute at the major league level? Example... I have a SP in AAA that is 15-3 with a 2.90 ERA just past the ML all-star break. I would like to bring him up and replace AJ Burnett, who is 4-14 with an ERA over 7.

With that being said... will sending AJ to AAA help him improve?

I'm trying to understand how players improve or decline at various points in their careers?

Without coaches to improve (or impede) their progress, player development (or deterioration) is a result of controlled randomness in this game.

Without scouts, you can still rely on ratings, which will be 100% accurate. In that case, look for ratings that are turning from yellow to green and stats that show success at one level calling for promotion to the next.

Factor in age. If that pitcher in AAA is only 20, then hesitate a while longer before bringing him up. If he's 23, time's awastin' - bring him up.

If you have ratings turned off, it's much harder of course. In that case, you have to rely on statistics alone.

vamac53 · 10-14-2008, 02:45 PM

Yank,

In using ratings, if a "single A" or a "double AA" player has a rating in stuff of "80" out of 100, which is very good, and a MLB pitcher with a stuff of "70"; which player has better stuff?? WHY?? Because the minor leaguer is graded at 80 compared to other pitchers in A or AA, or does it not matter? stuff is stuff no mateer where it is A or MLB.. In other words "My" stuff is probably a 80 in little league, but probably a 10 in mlb. Follow??

thx

Mike

1998 Yankees · 10-14-2008, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamac53

Yank,

In using ratings, if a "single A" or a "double AA" player has a rating in stuff of "80" out of 100, which is very good, and a MLB pitcher with a stuff of "70"; which player has better stuff?? WHY?? Because the minor leaguer is graded at 80 compared to other pitchers in A or AA, or does it not matter? stuff is stuff no mateer where it is A or MLB.. In other words "My" stuff is probably a 80 in little league, but probably a 10 in mlb. Follow??

thx

Mike

In earlier versions of this game, it used to be a bit confusing as to how players were rated against players in their own leagues versus those of the parent league. In OOTP 9, with a single scouting viewpoint (previously, you could have a scout on every level of your organization), it appears to me that all ratings are from the MLB perspective. Take a young player who spent some years in the minors, look at his scouting reports, and you will probably see a progression of red numbers to green or blue as he rose through the ranks. So if you see a player with green or blue ratings in A or AA, you should be thinking about bringing him up to AAA and MLB soon, because it looks like he has the right "stuff."

Simon_Nesbit · 10-16-2008, 10:03 PM

I tend to use the .800 OPS mark as a sort point.

If someone is hitting .800 or ihgher they are ready for the next level. From .700 to .800 I might look at it depending on age/other options. From .600-.700 they will stay. Under .600 they get dropped down or cut completely (dependent on age).

Playing with ALL ratings off makes this really interesting - though frustrating. I remember giving up a star 35yo OF and a young pitcher who couldn't put it together for a great young 3B hitter (1.100 OPS over two seasons at 22 in AAA).

The young pitcher eventually won near 200 games <4.00 era, the 35yo went to HOF with a 'almost MVP' season at 37, and my young 3B lasted three seasons in the majors, never breaking .230.

I tend to find I am MUCH more conservative not knowing what the potential of players are - perhaps this is more realistic than the 'lotto-ball' I tend to play with ratings on full. Certainly it seems the more accurate information I have, the more often/aggressively I trade.

10-13-2008, 02:24 PM	#1
Soze Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 52	Player Development question... I'm in a league that does not use coaches or scouts... any ideas on how to really know when a player is ready to contribute at the major league level? Example... I have a SP in AAA that is 15-3 with a 2.90 ERA just past the ML all-star break. I would like to bring him up and replace AJ Burnett, who is 4-14 with an ERA over 7. With that being said... will sending AJ to AAA help him improve? I'm trying to understand how players improve or decline at various points in their careers?

10-14-2008, 02:45 PM	#3
vamac53 Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 17	Yank, In using ratings, if a "single A" or a "double AA" player has a rating in stuff of "80" out of 100, which is very good, and a MLB pitcher with a stuff of "70"; which player has better stuff?? WHY?? Because the minor leaguer is graded at 80 compared to other pitchers in A or AA, or does it not matter? stuff is stuff no mateer where it is A or MLB.. In other words "My" stuff is probably a 80 in little league, but probably a 10 in mlb. Follow?? thx Mike

10-16-2008, 10:03 PM	#5
Simon_Nesbit Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 260	I tend to use the .800 OPS mark as a sort point. If someone is hitting .800 or ihgher they are ready for the next level. From .700 to .800 I might look at it depending on age/other options. From .600-.700 they will stay. Under .600 they get dropped down or cut completely (dependent on age). Playing with ALL ratings off makes this really interesting - though frustrating. I remember giving up a star 35yo OF and a young pitcher who couldn't put it together for a great young 3B hitter (1.100 OPS over two seasons at 22 in AAA). The young pitcher eventually won near 200 games <4.00 era, the 35yo went to HOF with a 'almost MVP' season at 37, and my young 3B lasted three seasons in the majors, never breaking .230. I tend to find I am MUCH more conservative not knowing what the potential of players are - perhaps this is more realistic than the 'lotto-ball' I tend to play with ratings on full. Certainly it seems the more accurate information I have, the more often/aggressively I trade.