Mark Mulder -- Is He Done?

Michael Hopcroft · 07-09-2008, 09:22 PM

Mark Mulder pitched a third of an inning today in Philadelphia before coming up lame and laving the game with two runners on base and one out in the first.

You feel bad about thinking something like that, but somehow given how ineffective he was on this day and how quickly he tweakjed his shoulder, I can't help but wonder if the man, with his surgically repaired shoulder, is finished as a major leaguer. It's only one outing, but it was such a bad outing that I can't help but wonder whether he has anything left at all.

edm · 07-09-2008, 09:27 PM

What happened. I went to throw on a load of wash and when I came back he was out of the game. Did he grab his arm or anything? was he just wild?

jarmenia · 07-09-2008, 09:28 PM

he's done

andymac · 07-09-2008, 09:36 PM

He has been done for 3 years.

Michael Hopcroft · 07-09-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by edm

What happened. I went to throw on a load of wash and when I came back he was out of the game. Did he grab his arm or anything? was he just wild?

He felt discomfort in his surgically repaired shoulder, after walking two of the first three men he faced and going 3-0 on the fourth. He didn't have any control, but the strain on his shoulder probably had someting to do with it.

Even Orel Hershiser, covering the game for ESPN, has speculated this might be the end of the line for Mulder.

Cryomaniac · 07-09-2008, 10:15 PM

Channel 5 in the UK got to the game late, so I didn't see this. Never good to see a guy coming off surgery then leaving a game after 1/3 of an inning.

bababui · 07-09-2008, 10:31 PM

When was he put in?

rem · 07-09-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

When was he put in?

He started.

mrskippy · 07-09-2008, 11:19 PM

That's too bad. I liked Mulder when he was with the A's.

Green & Gold Heart · 07-09-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mrskippy

That's too bad. I liked Mulder when he was with the A's.

Yes, he was all kinds of awesome for a few years. It's too bad that this is probably how it ends for him.

darkenigma510 · 07-09-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Hopcroft

Mark Mulder pitched a third of an inning today in Philadelphia before coming up lame and laving the game with two runners on base and one out in the first.

You feel bad about thinking something like that, but somehow given how ineffective he was on this day and how quickly he tweakjed his shoulder, I can't help but wonder if the man, with his surgically repaired shoulder, is finished as a major leaguer. It's only one outing, but it was such a bad outing that I can't help but wonder whether he has anything left at all.

In a word, yes.

darkenigma510 · 07-09-2008, 11:32 PM

I have a soft spot for Mulder because he was my stud lefty in my MVP baseball dynasty....won me a few world series too...too bad the real life Mulder fell apart way too early...

CRTsports.com · 07-10-2008, 12:08 AM

Sad to see him go down like this. If I was a GM in the league and the A's had a pitcher on the block, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

mrskippy · 07-10-2008, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CRTsports.com

Sad to see him go down like this. If I was a GM in the league and the A's had a pitcher on the block, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

Huddy is still doing OK. Zito sucks, but that is not Beane's fault. Harden probably will join Mulder on the outside soon enough.

mirrf · 07-10-2008, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Yes, he was all kinds of awesome for a few years. It's too bad that this is probably how it ends for him.

BB will give him a chance in Fremont.

mrskippy · 07-10-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mirrf

BB will give him a chance in Fremont.

BB will gives lots of guys chances in Fremont, as I think the A's will suddenly find themselves with a nice bit of revenue at that point (aside from buying the land/building the park -- which I think you'll see a lot of private equity coming in for). Really, I think the A's will have the ability to spend as much as the Giants, if not more, as they really will be in the more affluent market (I wouldn't be surprised if Cisco has the most expensive tickets in baseball).

Erik W. · 07-10-2008, 04:57 PM

I still hate Jocketty for this trade.

Jonzard · 07-10-2008, 05:19 PM

I really thought that someone bumped an old thread when I saw this.

BaseballMan · 07-10-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik W.

I still hate Jocketty for this trade.

well i dont remeber who was involved in the trade but Mulder didnt really have a bad season his fiirst year in st.louis. Was there any indication he would develop the Kerry Wood syndrome before they traded for him?

woodfeld · 07-10-2008, 05:52 PM

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well i dont remeber who was involved in the trade but Mulder didnt really have a bad season his fiirst year in st.louis. Was there any indication he would develop the Kerry Wood syndrome before they traded for him?

Actually, Mulder had started to decline the last half of the season before he was traded. He was amazing in the 1st half of the season as he started the All Star Game in Houston (where he got roughed up if I remember correctly). He then nosedived in the 2nd half (scouts started to wonder if he was hurt), got traded, started slowly with the Cards, pitched an epic 10 inning 1-0 win vs. Clemens, which got him back on track for about a month or two, then has been pretty much toast since then.

As a Cards fan, I don't hate Jocketty for this trade as Mulder was a marquee pitcher at the time and never had injury problems. I guess you can point to his 2nd half collapse, but there was really no reason to believe he wasn't going to bounce back. I remember thinking of how much we had to give up to get him, but Mulder was a total ace so I was all for it. Barton was never going to see the field in STL with Pujols at 1B and while I loved Calero, relievers of his stature aren't ridiculously difficult to replace. As for Haren, you have to admit, you didn't see ace written on him when he was with STL. He looked like he would be a solid #3 guy (John Maine-esque). If Mulder would have continued his career progress as normal, this trade would have been win-win.

07-09-2008, 09:22 PM	#1
Michael Hopcroft Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, OR USA Posts: 487	Mark Mulder -- Is He Done? Mark Mulder pitched a third of an inning today in Philadelphia before coming up lame and laving the game with two runners on base and one out in the first. You feel bad about thinking something like that, but somehow given how ineffective he was on this day and how quickly he tweakjed his shoulder, I can't help but wonder if the man, with his surgically repaired shoulder, is finished as a major leaguer. It's only one outing, but it was such a bad outing that I can't help but wonder whether he has anything left at all.

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edm All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,999	What happened. I went to throw on a load of wash and when I came back he was out of the game. Did he grab his arm or anything? was he just wild?

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jarmenia Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL USA Posts: 4,503	he's done __________________ When is good enough, good enough?

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mrskippy All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,011	That's too bad. I liked Mulder when he was with the A's.

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darkenigma510 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Wild West Posts: 1,353	I have a soft spot for Mulder because he was my stud lefty in my MVP baseball dynasty....won me a few world series too...too bad the real life Mulder fell apart way too early...

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