Should this be a HOLD ????

[clamel]

Top of the 9th
Angels vs Brewers.

Gary Lucas to pitch for Angels and gets first out on a ground out.
Second batter he faces gets onboard with a BB.

Angels puts Bryan Harvey on the mound with runner on first and 1 out.

I thought a Hold is when a pitcher gets on the mound HOLDING one or more runners and gets one hold for each NOT scoring.

This scoring shows Gary Lucas gets a HOLD and Harvey the save ??? should Harvey get a hold instead of Lucas together with the save

<TABLE class=lpo style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=h4 style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px; TEXT-ALIGN: left" colSpan=2>Top of the 9th - Milwaukee Brewers batting - Pitching for California Angels : RHP M. Henneman</TD></TR><TR><TD class=slgb vAlign=top width=240>Pitching: LHP G. Lucas</TD><TD class=slg></TD></TR><TR><TD class=slb vAlign=top width=240>Now at C: E. Pappas</TD><TD class=sl></TD></TR><TR><TD class=slgb vAlign=top width=240>Pinch Hitting: RHB J. Meyer</TD><TD class=slg>0-0: Called Strike
0-1: Ball
1-1: Ball
2-1: Ground out 5-3 (Groundball, 56)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=slb vAlign=top width=240>Batting: LHB B. Spiers</TD><TD class=sl>0-0: Ball
1-0: Foul Ball, location: 23F
1-1: Ball
2-1: Ball
3-1: Base on Balls</TD></TR><TR><TD class=slgb vAlign=top width=240>Pitching: RHP B. Harvey</TD><TD class=slg></TD></TR><TR><TD class=slb vAlign=top width=240>Pinch Hitting: RHB D. Nixon</TD><TD class=sl>0-0: Foul Ball, location: 4
0-1: Grounds into double play, 5-4-3 (Groundball, 5)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=h2l colSpan=2>Top of the 9th over - 0 run(s), 0 hit(s), 0 error(s), 0 left on base; Milwaukee 2 - California 5</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=h4 style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px; TEXT-ALIGN: left" colSpan=2>Game Over ... California defeats Milwaukee, 5 to 2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

THE BOX SCORE
<TABLE class=lpo cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=385><TBODY><TR><TD class=lcl></TD><TD class=lc></TD><TD class=lc></TD><TD class=lc></TD><TD class=lc></TD><TD class=lc></TD><TD class=lc></TD><TD class=lc></TD><TD class=lc></TD><TD class=lc></TD><TD class=lc></TD></TR><TR><TD class=lcl>G. Lucas H (1)</TD><TD class=lc>0.1</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>1</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>9</TD><TD class=lc>3</TD><TD class=lc>0.00</TD></TR><TR><TD class=lcl>B. Harvey SV (2)</TD><TD class=lc>0.2</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>0</TD><TD class=lc>2</TD><TD class=lc>2</TD><TD class=lc>9.00</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Inherited Runners - Scored: M. Henneman 3-2, B. Harvey 1-0

[tysok]

A hold is a stat for a reliever that doesn't qualify for a save. If he comes in and doesn't give up the lead he gets a hold... then the next pitcher finished off that game and got a save.

[clamel]

Thanks, I get it....

Lots to learn for an european.

[tysok]

Originally Posted by clamel

Thanks, I get it....

Lots to learn for an european.

Holds don't make much sense anyhow.

What you were thinking of was an inherited runner, Harvey would get the save, he'd have 1 inherited runner and 0 inherited runners scored. The game doesn't track inherited runners though, at least not now.