LBA Amateur Boxing

mh2365 · 02-11-2008, 10:35 AM

Since it is so easy to switch back and forth between databases in 2.5 I will be starting LBA Amateur division. All fighters scheduled to join the LBA in 1914 will begin Amateur tournies in January of 1913.

More rules to follow.

aaaaaaaaa · 02-11-2008, 01:15 PM

Nice, i had fun while doing it with mine.

mh2365 · 02-11-2008, 01:24 PM

I've been wanting to do it for a while and I tried to talk Andreas into putting in an amateur career stage, where once they switched to beginner their history would be wiped clean but it would show on the stats page their amateur record.

I have to figure out all the rules on how I will do it. Won't be following the RL amateur rules at all.

mh2365 · 02-11-2008, 02:16 PM

Okay a few things I have so far ....

1) All fighters will come in at the beginning of the year. The LBA will now add all fighters at the beginning of the year instead of scattered throughout the year. So the first year of amateur bouts will be the fighters who debuted in 1914, 1944, and 1974.

2) I will generate enough RFG to fill out countries of the RL fighters who are joining. So if there is one Mexican fighter I will generate 7 other Mexican fighters, enough to fill out the next level (8,16,or 32). There will be no TC's. Whatever is generated is what is there.

3) All RFG's will have a 50/50 chance of joining the LBA ... if they don't join, they will be retired.

4) There will be one double elimination tournament per country each month.

5) The December tourney will be the golden gloves and the champ will have it notated in his fighter notes.

6) Starting in 1914 the Olympics will take place every 4 years in December. All fighters who end the previous year with a .600 record or better (RFG or RL) will have a 50/50 chance of staying amateur to take a shot at the Olympics (I want it to be random and not something I decide). So a fighter who fights amateur in 1915 will have no shot at the Olympics. (I may later add the Pan American games in the even years that the Olympics are not in)

mh2365 · 02-11-2008, 02:49 PM

Also it will all be regular weight classes ... so like the Mexican example above ... if the RL mexican is a FW, so will all the RFG's. Although I will arrange them into various weight groups (1 up, stay the same, or 1 down) as they go to the LBA.

gocubsgo · 02-11-2008, 03:13 PM

Mike this is an awesome idea. I might have to incorporate part of it into my new uni. Very cool.

Ric915 · 02-11-2008, 03:18 PM

Will definately be following this a really cool idea seperate DB for the amateurs,

Thunder · 02-11-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

6) Starting in 1914 the Olympics will take place every 4 years in December. All fighters who end the previous year with a .600 record or better (RFG or RL) will have a 50/50 chance of staying amateur to take a shot at the Olympics (I want it to be random and not something I decide). So a fighter who fights amateur in 1915 will have no shot at the Olympics. (I may later add the Pan American games in the even years that the Olympics are not in)

Guys can't stay ammy more than one year?

mh2365 · 02-11-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder

Guys can't stay ammy more than one year?

I don't know ... I'm trying to think of a good way of doing it ... right now a year seems to be good.

I have another month to run before I start it so I am open to new ideas. Was thinking maybe a % roll at the end of each year with the chances of going pro increasing each time. Maybe 50/60/70 then they have to go after the Olympics.

With the RFG fighters I can go the opposite way and go 50/40/30 then they have to retire after the Olympics.

mh2365 · 02-12-2008, 10:12 AM

After seeing the amount of fighters that are in the 1914, 1944, 1974 classes there is no way I can carry a lot of fighters multiple years and keep it manageable.

So since this is all make believe anyways ... the Olympics will be run every two years starting in 1914 ... all fighters with a winning record (fictional or not) will have a chance to stay at the end of their first year. Fictional fighters who don't stay will have a 50/50 shot of going into the pros (winning record or not). Those that don't go to the pros will be deleted.

The Olympics will be held in December of 1914 with the trials being in November. All real fighters at the end of 1914 will go pro. Same 50/50 scenario for the fictional guys.

One thing I will be doing is adding communist countries. I will add USSR, China, South Korea and Cuba (any others?). There fighters will not retire or go to the pros. They can fight for up to 10 years. All fighters will fight at prime.

The site of the Olympics will be determined at the end of the prior year. It will be random but weighted. Any fighter from a communist country participating in the Olympics in a non communist country will have 10-20% chance of defecting and joining the pros.

Ric915 · 02-12-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

After seeing the amount of fighters that are in the 1914, 1944, 1974 classes there is no way I can carry a lot of fighters multiple years and keep it manageable.

So since this is all make believe anyways ... the Olympics will be run every two years starting in 1914 ... all fighters with a winning record (fictional or not) will have a chance to stay at the end of their first year. Fictional fighters who don't stay will have a 50/50 shot of going into the pros (winning record or not). Those that don't go to the pros will be deleted.

The Olympics will be held in December of 1914 with the trials being in November. All real fighters at the end of 1914 will go pro. Same 50/50 scenario for the fictional guys.

One thing I will be doing is adding communist countries. I will add USSR, China, South Korea and Cuba (any others?). There fighters will not retire or go to the pros. They can fight for up to 10 years. All fighters will fight at prime.

The site of the Olympics will be determined at the end of the prior year. It will be random but weighted. Any fighter from a communist country participating in the Olympics in a non communist country will have 10-20% chance of defecting and joining the pros.

Loving these Ideas's Mike

gocubsgo · 02-12-2008, 11:41 AM

Wow somebody sure has been putting some thought into this one.

mh2365 · 02-12-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gocubsgo

Wow somebod sure has been putting some thought into this one.

Well it should last unlike my 60's one ... since it will be the feeder for my pros. Thought about going ahead and running one year leading up to 1913. May still do that while I'm waiting on the patch ... since rankings will have no effect on this uni.

I think I will be using 6 round fights also.

mh2365 · 02-12-2008, 01:51 PM

Yep gonna change it up and start this now .. running all the 1913, 1943 and 1973 fighters through the year 1912 (timeline will be kept with the LBA). First Olympics will take place in December of 1913.

Yes unnatural to have the Olympics in an odd year but who really cares. Plus Marvin Johnson gets to fight as an amateur!

Romdawg88 · 02-12-2008, 02:01 PM

This is some good stuff. I really love what your doing with the Communist countries.

mh2365 · 02-12-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Romdawg88

This is some good stuff. I really love what your doing with the Communist countries.

If I get someone who is actually from that country (like Agramonte)... they will fight for them and automatically join the LBA .. the fictional guys from these countries will have a little tougher time.

Dagrims · 02-12-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

If I get someone who is actually from that country (like Agramonte)... they will fight for them and automatically join the LBA .. the fictional guys from these countries will have a little tougher time.

Man. How bad would it suck to be a fictional boxer, created to reside in a sweet boxing universe, and be stuck in a Communist country?

mh2365 · 02-12-2008, 04:53 PM

Getting ready for the HW's ... as far as communist countries I'm going with Cuba, USSR, China, and North Korea (sorry to have slammed South Korea earlier!)

3 of the 4 are still under communist rule but the USSR I'm adding since it's 1912 in my uni.

javier_83 · 02-12-2008, 05:03 PM

good luck here!! let hope mexico can have a medal here

Ric915 · 02-12-2008, 07:50 PM

How are you running the fights?...3 rounders 10point must or round scoring?

02-11-2008, 10:35 AM	#1
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	LBA Amateur Boxing Since it is so easy to switch back and forth between databases in 2.5 I will be starting LBA Amateur division. All fighters scheduled to join the LBA in 1914 will begin Amateur tournies in January of 1913. More rules to follow.

02-11-2008, 02:16 PM	#4
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Okay a few things I have so far .... 1) All fighters will come in at the beginning of the year. The LBA will now add all fighters at the beginning of the year instead of scattered throughout the year. So the first year of amateur bouts will be the fighters who debuted in 1914, 1944, and 1974. 2) I will generate enough RFG to fill out countries of the RL fighters who are joining. So if there is one Mexican fighter I will generate 7 other Mexican fighters, enough to fill out the next level (8,16,or 32). There will be no TC's. Whatever is generated is what is there. 3) All RFG's will have a 50/50 chance of joining the LBA ... if they don't join, they will be retired. 4) There will be one double elimination tournament per country each month. 5) The December tourney will be the golden gloves and the champ will have it notated in his fighter notes. 6) Starting in 1914 the Olympics will take place every 4 years in December. All fighters who end the previous year with a .600 record or better (RFG or RL) will have a 50/50 chance of staying amateur to take a shot at the Olympics (I want it to be random and not something I decide). So a fighter who fights amateur in 1915 will have no shot at the Olympics. (I may later add the Pan American games in the even years that the Olympics are not in) Last edited by mh2365; 02-11-2008 at 02:17 PM.

02-12-2008, 11:41 AM	#12
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02-11-2008, 01:15 PM	#2
aaaaaaaaa All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,223	Nice, i had fun while doing it with mine.

02-11-2008, 01:24 PM	#3
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I've been wanting to do it for a while and I tried to talk Andreas into putting in an amateur career stage, where once they switched to beginner their history would be wiped clean but it would show on the stats page their amateur record. I have to figure out all the rules on how I will do it. Won't be following the RL amateur rules at all.

02-11-2008, 02:49 PM	#5
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Also it will all be regular weight classes ... so like the Mexican example above ... if the RL mexican is a FW, so will all the RFG's. Although I will arrange them into various weight groups (1 up, stay the same, or 1 down) as they go to the LBA.

02-11-2008, 03:13 PM	#6
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,556	Mike this is an awesome idea. I might have to incorporate part of it into my new uni. Very cool.

02-11-2008, 03:18 PM	#7
Ric915 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lake Havasu City Arizona Posts: 1,262	Will definately be following this a really cool idea seperate DB for the amateurs,

02-12-2008, 10:12 AM	#10
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	After seeing the amount of fighters that are in the 1914, 1944, 1974 classes there is no way I can carry a lot of fighters multiple years and keep it manageable. So since this is all make believe anyways ... the Olympics will be run every two years starting in 1914 ... all fighters with a winning record (fictional or not) will have a chance to stay at the end of their first year. Fictional fighters who don't stay will have a 50/50 shot of going into the pros (winning record or not). Those that don't go to the pros will be deleted. The Olympics will be held in December of 1914 with the trials being in November. All real fighters at the end of 1914 will go pro. Same 50/50 scenario for the fictional guys. One thing I will be doing is adding communist countries. I will add USSR, China, South Korea and Cuba (any others?). There fighters will not retire or go to the pros. They can fight for up to 10 years. All fighters will fight at prime. The site of the Olympics will be determined at the end of the prior year. It will be random but weighted. Any fighter from a communist country participating in the Olympics in a non communist country will have 10-20% chance of defecting and joining the pros.

02-12-2008, 01:51 PM	#14
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Yep gonna change it up and start this now .. running all the 1913, 1943 and 1973 fighters through the year 1912 (timeline will be kept with the LBA). First Olympics will take place in December of 1913. Yes unnatural to have the Olympics in an odd year but who really cares. Plus Marvin Johnson gets to fight as an amateur!

02-12-2008, 04:53 PM	#18
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Getting ready for the HW's ... as far as communist countries I'm going with Cuba, USSR, China, and North Korea (sorry to have slammed South Korea earlier!) 3 of the 4 are still under communist rule but the USSR I'm adding since it's 1912 in my uni.

02-12-2008, 07:50 PM	#20
Ric915 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lake Havasu City Arizona Posts: 1,262	How are you running the fights?...3 rounders 10point must or round scoring?