Pitch counts wrong?

Matt Mower · 10-12-2002, 03:09 PM

Hi folks,

Using OOTP4.1 on WinXPSP1

There's something about the pitch count that has me foxed. Maybe I just don't understand...

At the start of a game, 1st inning, first batter faced

The count is B2 S2, so how come the pitch count is 5/3?

Am I reading this right? I thought it was

pitches thrown / strikes thrown

If I pitch again, the next message is:

"Morris waits for the 3 and 2 pitch."

i.e. the 5th pitch

Have I misunderstood something?

Regards,

Matt

Steve Kuffrey · 10-12-2002, 03:39 PM

I think you are forgetting the pitch that is being thrown with that play: 2B 2S count (pitch made) ball hit(result). Shown as 5/3 correct count.

Matt Mower · 10-12-2002, 04:00 PM

Hi Steve,

Thanks for responding, but I'm afraid I still don't understand.

When the display says 2B 2S four pitches in total have been thrown yes?

If so how can the display read 5/3 *at the same time*?

Regards,

Matt

Steve Kuffrey · 10-12-2002, 04:03 PM

Oh, now I see it is probably that a foul ball occured(need to remember that not every foul ball shows in the pbp), that would account for the pitch count. I am not 100% sure about this but fairly certain.

Matt Mower · 10-12-2002, 05:44 PM

Hi Steve,

I still don't understand.

You say the pitch count is

pitches made / ball hit (result)

So 5/3 means

5 pitches made/ 3 results

But if the count is 2 and 2 then it should be

5/4

shouldn't it? With the 5 ndicating one foul...?

But I thought a foul ball was recorded as a strike.

I'm still confused.

Regards,

Matt

Steve Kuffrey · 10-12-2002, 06:12 PM

5=pitches made
3=strikes(2 strikes in the count + 1 foul ball)
2=balls

Count is 2/2

Matt Mower · 10-12-2002, 07:26 PM

Hi Steve,

Of course, I am forgetting that it remains S2 even though the foul is counted as a Strike. Doh!

I still think the PBP should show the foul.

Thanks for your perseverance ;-)

Matt

Steve Kuffrey · 10-12-2002, 07:29 PM

10-12-2002, 03:09 PM	#1
Matt Mower Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London Posts: 34	Pitch counts wrong? Hi folks, Using OOTP4.1 on WinXPSP1 There's something about the pitch count that has me foxed. Maybe I just don't understand... At the start of a game, 1st inning, first batter faced The count is B2 S2, so how come the pitch count is 5/3? Am I reading this right? I thought it was pitches thrown / strikes thrown If I pitch again, the next message is: "Morris waits for the 3 and 2 pitch." i.e. the 5th pitch Have I misunderstood something? Regards, Matt

10-12-2002, 03:39 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	I think you are forgetting the pitch that is being thrown with that play: 2B 2S count (pitch made) ball hit(result). Shown as 5/3 correct count. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

10-12-2002, 04:03 PM	#4
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Oh, now I see it is probably that a foul ball occured(need to remember that not every foul ball shows in the pbp), that would account for the pitch count. I am not 100% sure about this but fairly certain. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

10-12-2002, 06:12 PM	#6
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	5=pitches made 3=strikes(2 strikes in the count + 1 foul ball) 2=balls Count is 2/2 __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

10-12-2002, 07:29 PM	#8
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	__________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

10-12-2002, 04:00 PM	#3
Matt Mower Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London Posts: 34	Hi Steve, Thanks for responding, but I'm afraid I still don't understand. When the display says 2B 2S four pitches in total have been thrown yes? If so how can the display read 5/3 at the same time? Regards, Matt

10-12-2002, 05:44 PM	#5
Matt Mower Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London Posts: 34	Hi Steve, I still don't understand. You say the pitch count is pitches made / ball hit (result) So 5/3 means 5 pitches made/ 3 results But if the count is 2 and 2 then it should be 5/4 shouldn't it? With the 5 ndicating one foul...? But I thought a foul ball was recorded as a strike. I'm still confused. Regards, Matt

10-12-2002, 07:26 PM	#7
Matt Mower Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London Posts: 34	Hi Steve, Of course, I am forgetting that it remains S2 even though the foul is counted as a Strike. Doh! I still think the PBP should show the foul. Thanks for your perseverance ;-) Matt