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Old 07-19-2007, 10:16 PM   #1
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Odd contract extensions

So has anyone seen this or know of a cure?

http://united-baseball.org/news/html...ayer_3358.html

I have the AI settings for (roughly) 65% ratings, 20% last season, 15% current season. Superstar salaries around 15M. This guy, even though he's 35, has been an absolute stud, is still considered a top 10 pitcher in the game, making 13.5M a year, and signs a 2 year extension for...a total of 1.2M. His career ERA is 2.76 and his ERA last season was 2.24. I believe his ERA is currently in the top 5. I don't know his loyalty or greed, but it shouldn't matter as he accepted a deal for less than 5% of what he's making.

I'm sort of seeing this overall with the new version, no matter what I set the salary levels to, they are ignored. I tried some tests changing the star salaries to 25M and still nothing changed. There is a ton of money floating around (it's an online league) and OAK is currently 15M under the cap with his salary. Has anyone seen this? Is there a way to fix it?
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:06 AM   #2
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Dola-

Not sure it even matters but his loyalty is 7, greed is 5 and desire for winner is 10. I'm just trying to figure out why he's taking a 95% pay cut when he's still a top 10 pitcher.

My actual numbers now that I checked:
Superstar = 17M
Star = 12M
Good = 7M
Above Avg = 3.5M
Avg = 1.75M
Below Avg = 1M
Fair = 600k
Poor = 450k

So for some reason the game seems to rank him as fair (even though he's 4.5*).

So this player here http://www.united-baseball.org/news/...ayer_2888.html who is a complete stud at 26 is asking for 14M x 2 (the 14M is ok even there's more $$ than that out there, but 2 years??)...his loyalty is 3 and greed is 10.

This guy here http://www.united-baseball.org/news/...ayer_3168.html who has won 3 Cy Youngs and a ROY and is just 27, is asking for 12.5M x 3, which is guess is ok because his loyalty is 10 and greed is 10.

So is there something that says a pitcher >35 is automatically worthless? Are the modifiers changing the asking prices significantly? These two players above are on teams with tons of loot, where superstars are getting 20M+ in the open market and are asking for star salaries short term? Is it because of their age? I did notice in testing that younger players seem to want shorter contracts (sort of the opposite of real life).
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:23 AM   #3
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Salary demands are, at least in part, determined by ratings (and to avoid the situation you describe, I think they should be based more on stats). Is it possible that your pitcher has taken a nosedive, and your scouts haven't picked up on it yet?

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I did notice in testing that younger players seem to want shorter contracts (sort of the opposite of real life).
I've certainly noticed that it's harder than in '06 to sign a player with limited service time to a long contract, but this makes sense to me, and is much like real life. A decent player who might become a star later wouldn't want to forego the chance for a big payday that free agency might provide. Players with 6+ years of MLB service should probably all prefer long contracts if the money is as good as they could reasonably expect.
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Salary demands are, at least in part, determined by ratings (and to avoid the situation you describe, I think they should be based more on stats). Is it possible that your pitcher has taken a nosedive, and your scouts haven't picked up on it yet?



I've certainly noticed that it's harder than in '06 to sign a player with limited service time to a long contract, but this makes sense to me, and is much like real life. A decent player who might become a star later wouldn't want to forego the chance for a big payday that free agency might provide. Players with 6+ years of MLB service should probably all prefer long contracts if the money is as good as they could reasonably expect.
Thanks for the reply, but scouts are off so it shouldn't really matter. Also, I changed the AI evaluation to set 100% on ratings and guess what...there was no difference in asking price of the above mentioned dudes. Guess what else...I changed the AI evaluation to be 0% ratings, 100% on prior year's stats and...no difference (maybe 500k or so). Ollis, one of the links above, is probably the top pitcher in the game, a complete stud, so he's asking for the 12-13M range for 2 years???

http://www.united-baseball.org/news/...ayer_2181.html peep that dude. He's 27 years old, coming off a nice season, his ratings have him at 4.5*, you know what he asked for? A 2 year deal worth 19M, with the second year being a team option at 10M. That's right, the 27 year old All-Star is willing to play a 1 year guaranteed contract for 9M. I complained bitterly about this in testing and was assured it was being looked into. Some of these are getting down-right silly. I don't care what scouts perceive or don't, a player who is still top 10 in ERA making 13.5M should not accept a 2 year offer for 600k per, with no noticeable drop in ratings.
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I'll just add that we converted from OOTP 6.5 on opening day, so this is the first season being run under v2007.
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Yes, oddly enough a bunch of 36 year old MRs and declining OF are asking for 4-5M each...
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