Wow,Troy Smith,selection #174

Scoman · 04-29-2007, 03:26 PM

To the Ravens,never would have thought he would have fell that low,I figured 2nd or 3rd round,shows how much I know.

MorseMoose · 04-29-2007, 03:58 PM

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shows how much I know.

No kidding...I thought he was drafted last year!

darkhorse · 04-29-2007, 04:17 PM

Mebbe Troy has the same agent as Quinn.

Scoman · 04-29-2007, 04:22 PM

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Mebbe Troy has the same agent as Quinn.

Or Charlie Ward's agent.

Astros33Resurrected · 04-29-2007, 04:27 PM

I think its funny how they were talking about Brady Quinn being a "big" quarterback size wise. Isn't he only like 2 inches taller than Smith?

MorseMoose · 04-29-2007, 04:30 PM

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I think its funny how they were talking about Brady Quinn being a "big" quarterback size wise. Isn't he only like 2 inches taller than Smith?

I'd say 2 inches is quite a lot. Two inches is the difference from me being 6 foot.

Astros33Resurrected · 04-29-2007, 04:32 PM

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I'd say 2 inches is quite a lot. Two inches is the difference from me being 6 foot.

I don't consider it to be too much. I mean saying a guy who is 6'2 is huge and then saying a guy who is 6'0 is too short. Isn't that a little drastic?

Scoman · 04-29-2007, 04:50 PM

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I don't consider it to be too much. I mean saying a guy who is 6'2 is huge and then saying a guy who is 6'0 is too short. Isn't that a little drastic?

I would say It's all about the release point, Bernie Kosar was 6'5'' and had more batted down passes than most.

Astros33Resurrected · 04-29-2007, 04:51 PM

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I would say It's all about the release point, Bernie Kosar was 6'5'' and had more batted down passed that most.

I agree. Smith throws from his toes so its not like he is releasing the ball too low. I think Smith will eventually be a starter in the NFL.

marc · 04-29-2007, 04:54 PM

People are terrified of Smith's height. Here's the problem, at 6'0 teams will blitz him to keep him in the pocket and Smith will have a hard time being able to stand in and make a throw. He had this problem in college too because with all that chaos going on you need to be able stand in there and deliver the ball accurately.

If you're 6'5 like Peyton Manning, it's not a big deal because you can see over everything, Smith doesn't have that luxury and he doesn't have Vick's ability to scramble out of situations like that.

I think Troy has a lot of things going for him though and hopefully he will work hard and learn from McNair in Baltimore.

Astros33Resurrected · 04-29-2007, 04:56 PM

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People are terrified of Smith's height. Here's the problem, at 6'0 teams will blitz him to keep him in the pocket and Smith will have a hard time being able to stand in and make a throw. He had this problem in college too because with all that chaos going on you need to be able stand in there and deliver the ball accurately.

If you're 6'5 like Peyton Manning, it's not a big deal because you can see over everything, Smith doesn't have that luxury and he doesn't have Vick's ability to scramble out of situations like that.

I think Troy has a lot of things going for him though and hopefully he will work hard and learn from McNair in Baltimore.

I was glad the Ravens took him. That is the perfect situation for him.

marc · 04-29-2007, 05:02 PM

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I was glad the Ravens took him. That is the perfect situation for him.

I think it's a great situation for him too.

Scoman · 04-29-2007, 05:06 PM

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I think it's a great situation for him too.

The more I think about it,I'd have to agree.

Raidergoo · 04-29-2007, 06:05 PM

Troy Smith is the same height as Drew Brees.

Skipaway · 04-29-2007, 11:59 PM

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Troy Smith is the same height as Drew Brees.

Which means Troy Smith probably have a lot of other flaws comparing to Brees, since Brees was drafted 32rd.

marc · 04-30-2007, 12:13 AM

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Which means Troy Smith probably have a lot of other flaws comparing to Brees, since Brees was drafted 32rd.

Maybe not so much Smith's flaws as much as Brees was one of the most accurate passers I've ever seen put on a college uniform.

Prodigal Son · 04-30-2007, 12:25 AM

I get the idea from the past few drafts that NFL GM's are fed up with players who don't participate in the combine.

marc · 04-30-2007, 12:29 AM

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I get the idea from the past few drafts that NFL GM's are fed up with players who don't participate in the combine.

Agreed.

That goes on Smith too because he had to know he needed the combine regardless of whether it's overrated or not. Perception is reality and the perception is that strong combine workouts can really boom someones draft stock.

rudel.dietrich · 04-30-2007, 12:32 AM

The NFL seems to be a place where all logic goes out the window

Players can move up and down on the draft board during weeks that they do nothing at all.
Bench pressing 15 more pounds or running 6 hundreds of a second faster on your 40 means the difference between round 1 and round 2

I am glad baseball is slowly moving out of the dark ages and starting to find meaningful ways to evaluate players other than a bunch of bull**** that gets air time on ESPN but in reality means jack ****

The popularity of the NFL draft also boggles my mind but that is a different subject for a different day

marc · 04-30-2007, 01:29 AM

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Players can move up and down on the draft board during weeks that they do nothing at all.

This blows my mind as well.

04-29-2007, 04:54 PM	#10
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	People are terrified of Smith's height. Here's the problem, at 6'0 teams will blitz him to keep him in the pocket and Smith will have a hard time being able to stand in and make a throw. He had this problem in college too because with all that chaos going on you need to be able stand in there and deliver the ball accurately. If you're 6'5 like Peyton Manning, it's not a big deal because you can see over everything, Smith doesn't have that luxury and he doesn't have Vick's ability to scramble out of situations like that. I think Troy has a lot of things going for him though and hopefully he will work hard and learn from McNair in Baltimore. __________________

04-29-2007, 03:26 PM	#1
Scoman All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: heath ohio Posts: 1,831	Wow,Troy Smith,selection #174 To the Ravens,never would have thought he would have fell that low,I figured 2nd or 3rd round,shows how much I know.

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darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	Mebbe Troy has the same agent as Quinn.

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Astros33Resurrected Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 2,213	I think its funny how they were talking about Brady Quinn being a "big" quarterback size wise. Isn't he only like 2 inches taller than Smith?

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Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	Troy Smith is the same height as Drew Brees.

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Prodigal Son All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iahiodo a.k.a. the flyover Posts: 1,635	I get the idea from the past few drafts that NFL GM's are fed up with players who don't participate in the combine.

04-30-2007, 12:32 AM	#19
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	The NFL seems to be a place where all logic goes out the window Players can move up and down on the draft board during weeks that they do nothing at all. Bench pressing 15 more pounds or running 6 hundreds of a second faster on your 40 means the difference between round 1 and round 2 I am glad baseball is slowly moving out of the dark ages and starting to find meaningful ways to evaluate players other than a bunch of bull** that gets air time on ESPN but in reality means jack ** The popularity of the NFL draft also boggles my mind but that is a different subject for a different day