Who would you take: Center Field

blubbla · 08-27-2002, 11:12 PM

It's now time to plug a center fielder into your lineups. This one was the toughest thus far to whittle down to 9 candidates to put on the ballot, there are definitely a few more that could gain serious consideration.

Of course, a couple of these guys (Lance Berkman in particular) are being played out of place, but since they play here now, the find the ballot at this spot.

Knock yourselves out.

NEXT: Right Field

General Mike · 08-27-2002, 11:40 PM

I'll take Erstad. His grit and determination , plus gold glove D make him my choice.

Am I the only one having trouble voting in the polls?

RobertKak · 08-27-2002, 11:49 PM

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JAttractive · 08-27-2002, 11:50 PM

Again going with youth:

Andruw Jones for his potential, age and defense. Just too much to pass up for an aging veteran who may have superior numbers.

(Note: I really wanted to say Vernon Wells as a Toronto fan but I have to be realistic. At the same age Andruw Jones is so much more experienced and has greater potential if he can reach it).

asamford · 08-27-2002, 11:52 PM

AJones for the glove

blubbla · 08-28-2002, 12:01 AM

Torii Hunter and Vernon Wells were among the guys I left out ... this was a poll I'd have liked to be able to set up for 15.

blubbla · 08-28-2002, 12:04 AM

On Griffey ... you'd have to make the call on the player you think he is -- or can still be -- at this point in his career.

That goes the same for everybody else in the polls.

drprestwood · 08-28-2002, 11:13 AM

Man, not a Twins fan I guess. I don't understand how you can decide to "leave out" Torii Hunter, and then put him in a category with Vernon Wells.

Preston Wilson made the list?

twins15 · 08-28-2002, 04:21 PM

That was a terrible omission. Hunter is a gold glover, is batting around .300, has 25 hr's, and leads the team in rbi. In many places, inculing espn.com, he is lised as an mvp candidate. Please tell me you just forgot about him, and that you didnt leave him out on purpose?

blubbla · 08-28-2002, 05:12 PM

well... I think Hunter was the last guy I dropped from the list.

As for Wilson ... it was getting late ... so I whiffed

Jason Moyer · 08-28-2002, 06:37 PM

Andruw, no question. He puts up big power numbers in a pitcher's park, is the best defensive center fielder to have ever played the game, and has made great strides with his patience at the plate this year.

Normally I wouldn't take a guy for his defense, but when that defense comes with 30-40 HR and 100 BB ...

Jason

twins15 · 08-28-2002, 07:00 PM

What about Torii Hunter's defense? I know that Andruw Jones has had better offense, but defensively I would say that they are about even. I don't think that even Andruw could have made the catch that Torii did in the all star game.

holyroller · 08-29-2002, 02:55 AM

But you are a Twins fan so of course you think Torii is better

. I picked Andruw Jones but I thought long and hard about Berkman. If he had been in the RF slot I would have picked him without a second thought. However, he's just not a centerfielder.

CBL-Commish · 08-29-2002, 09:01 AM

Does anyone realize that Andruw Jones has been in the league almost seven years now, and he's only 25! He shouldn't even reach his peak for a couple more seasons. Plus, he really is the best center fielder there ever was. According to Win Shares he's already had (don't have the book in front of me) something like 3 of the top 20 defensive seasons by an outfielder ever. He leads the league in defensive win shares by an outfielder by 2 or 3 WS every year. That's like winning the batting title by 40 points every year.

Also, does anyone else think Darin Erstad has gotten more mileage out of one huge fluke season than any player since Norm Cash? Anyone else notice that three of the last four years Erstad has hit like a 12 year old girl? Except for that one good year, he hasn't had an OPS over .721 since 1998. There are eight Baltimore Orioles with 50 or more at bats with higher OPSes than Darin Erstad. He just signed a how many year contract for how much money? Because of cases like this I feel very, very little pity for any owner who cries that he's one the verge of bankruptcy. There tons of major league outfielders as good as or better than Darin Erstad making the ML minimum. To pay millions a year for one is unconscionable.

twins15 · 08-29-2002, 06:51 PM

Hey, I like Darin Erstad. He is one of the 2 players in the mlb from my home state, ND.

jaxmagicman · 05-17-2005, 04:09 PM

Beltran.

KurtBevacqua · 05-17-2005, 04:13 PM

Edmonds just because of his kamikaze style. It's like NASCAR, I keep waiting for the big wreck.

sebastian0622 · 05-17-2005, 04:27 PM

Jones still, but with props to Beltran for closing the gap a bit on his twin brother.

marioh · 05-17-2005, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

Beltran.

Ditto.

Karros270 · 05-17-2005, 04:43 PM

Take Bernie Williams...please!

View Poll Results: Who would you choose: CF
Carlos Beltran	18	24.66%
Lance Berkman	7	9.59%
Johnny Damon	5	6.85%
Jim Edmonds	7	9.59%
Darin Erstad	1	1.37%
Ken Griffey Jr.	3	4.11%
Andruw Jones	25	34.25%
Bernie Williams	1	1.37%
Preston Wilson	3	4.11%
OTHER -- please post	3	4.11%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

08-27-2002, 11:12 PM	#1
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,458	Who would you take: Center Field It's now time to plug a center fielder into your lineups. This one was the toughest thus far to whittle down to 9 candidates to put on the ballot, there are definitely a few more that could gain serious consideration. Of course, a couple of these guys (Lance Berkman in particular) are being played out of place, but since they play here now, the find the ballot at this spot. Knock yourselves out. NEXT: Right Field Last edited by blubbla; 08-27-2002 at 11:15 PM.

08-27-2002, 11:40 PM	#2
General Mike Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerset, NJ Posts: 255	I'll take Erstad. His grit and determination , plus gold glove D make him my choice. Am I the only one having trouble voting in the polls? __________________ ACL - Houston Astros SHIBA - Los Angeles Dodgers [url=http://baseball.slammedia.net]BL2[/url - New York Mets BTTF - Florida Marlins

08-27-2002, 11:49 PM	#3
RobertKak Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108	yiu __________________ NMWL ______________________________ "The one constant through all the years has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and what could be again." -Terrance Mann (James Earl Jones) Field of Dreams 1989 Last edited by RobertKak; 03-06-2006 at 01:14 PM.

08-27-2002, 11:50 PM	#4
JAttractive All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Catharines, Ontario Posts: 1,135	Again going with youth: Andruw Jones for his potential, age and defense. Just too much to pass up for an aging veteran who may have superior numbers. (Note: I really wanted to say Vernon Wells as a Toronto fan but I have to be realistic. At the same age Andruw Jones is so much more experienced and has greater potential if he can reach it). Last edited by JAttractive; 08-27-2002 at 11:53 PM.

08-27-2002, 11:52 PM	#5
asamford Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 1,769	AJones for the glove

08-28-2002, 12:01 AM	#6
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,458	Torii Hunter and Vernon Wells were among the guys I left out ... this was a poll I'd have liked to be able to set up for 15.

08-28-2002, 12:04 AM	#7
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,458	On Griffey ... you'd have to make the call on the player you think he is -- or can still be -- at this point in his career. That goes the same for everybody else in the polls.

08-28-2002, 11:13 AM	#8
drprestwood All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,501	Man, not a Twins fan I guess. I don't understand how you can decide to "leave out" Torii Hunter, and then put him in a category with Vernon Wells. Preston Wilson made the list?

08-28-2002, 04:21 PM	#9
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	That was a terrible omission. Hunter is a gold glover, is batting around .300, has 25 hr's, and leads the team in rbi. In many places, inculing espn.com, he is lised as an mvp candidate. Please tell me you just forgot about him, and that you didnt leave him out on purpose? __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

08-28-2002, 05:12 PM	#10
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,458	well... I think Hunter was the last guy I dropped from the list. As for Wilson ... it was getting late ... so I whiffed

08-28-2002, 06:37 PM	#11
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,106	Andruw, no question. He puts up big power numbers in a pitcher's park, is the best defensive center fielder to have ever played the game, and has made great strides with his patience at the plate this year. Normally I wouldn't take a guy for his defense, but when that defense comes with 30-40 HR and 100 BB ... Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

08-28-2002, 07:00 PM	#12
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	What about Torii Hunter's defense? I know that Andruw Jones has had better offense, but defensively I would say that they are about even. I don't think that even Andruw could have made the catch that Torii did in the all star game. __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

08-29-2002, 02:55 AM	#13
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	But you are a Twins fan so of course you think Torii is better . I picked Andruw Jones but I thought long and hard about Berkman. If he had been in the RF slot I would have picked him without a second thought. However, he's just not a centerfielder. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

08-29-2002, 09:01 AM	#14
CBL-Commish All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,999	Does anyone realize that Andruw Jones has been in the league almost seven years now, and he's only 25! He shouldn't even reach his peak for a couple more seasons. Plus, he really is the best center fielder there ever was. According to Win Shares he's already had (don't have the book in front of me) something like 3 of the top 20 defensive seasons by an outfielder ever. He leads the league in defensive win shares by an outfielder by 2 or 3 WS every year. That's like winning the batting title by 40 points every year. Also, does anyone else think Darin Erstad has gotten more mileage out of one huge fluke season than any player since Norm Cash? Anyone else notice that three of the last four years Erstad has hit like a 12 year old girl? Except for that one good year, he hasn't had an OPS over .721 since 1998. There are eight Baltimore Orioles with 50 or more at bats with higher OPSes than Darin Erstad. He just signed a how many year contract for how much money? Because of cases like this I feel very, very little pity for any owner who cries that he's one the verge of bankruptcy. There tons of major league outfielders as good as or better than Darin Erstad making the ML minimum. To pay millions a year for one is unconscionable. __________________ For the best in O's news: Orioles' Hangout.com

08-29-2002, 06:51 PM	#15
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	Hey, I like Darin Erstad. He is one of the 2 players in the mlb from my home state, ND. __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

05-17-2005, 04:09 PM	#16
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Beltran. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

05-17-2005, 04:13 PM	#17
KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	Edmonds just because of his kamikaze style. It's like NASCAR, I keep waiting for the big wreck. __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner

05-17-2005, 04:27 PM	#18
sebastian0622 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,465	Jones still, but with props to Beltran for closing the gap a bit on his twin brother.

05-17-2005, 04:43 PM	#20
Karros270 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,392	Take Bernie Williams...please! __________________ now everybody's praying...don't prey on me