MLB2K7 vs OOTP

Giants44 · 02-27-2007, 08:01 PM

So I picked up MLB2K7 today for the 360 and it really is a good game. beautiful to look at and fun to play.

However as I was playing it I was actually wanting to go TEST OOTP 2007. Not play mind you, but test (and there is a big difference)

Now to be fair I have always preferred text sport sim games, at least in part because I am no joystick jockey and my 9 year old is already at the point where he can usually beat me in most console games (but he does play a lot more then I do.)

But still this is a state of the art $60 HD game and I think it shows how far OOTP has come in the past year. Believe me last year I played MLB2k6 a lot more then I played OOTP 2006.

Having said that I recommend renting or picking up MLB2k7 - it will help pass the time till March 23 - but if you are anything like me it will start to get pretty dusty right about that day.

The Wolf · 02-27-2007, 09:07 PM

Some reviewers are also praising MLB '07 The Show, which was just released, saying that it has really good gameplay.

aleib · 02-27-2007, 09:59 PM

I preordered MLB 07 the show for PSP(hey I don't have any consoles) but haven't picked it up yet. I'm in the same boat you are though, I much prefer the text sims to the console games and have for a very long time. I just finished my preorder for OOTP07 and I'm eagerly anticipating its release.

NomarHits400 · 02-27-2007, 10:45 PM

Speaking of MLB 2K7- wouldn't OOTP be a hoot with the usual OOTP depth- but using the 2K7 graphical engine to show gameplay...All AI decisions could still be generated by the OOTP AI- but the game would be visually rendered with the 2K7 visuals.....Man...I would pay ALOT to play that game...

Faroo6 · 02-27-2007, 11:25 PM

MLB2K7 keeps a ton of user stats. I just played a few games and I can look at what percentage of my runs scored came from homeruns or base hits. It tracks your percentages of hits to fields against left and right handers. It looks like it could be pretty deep. Graphically its unreal. I was robbed by Jeremy Reed and after he slammed into the wall he recoiled onto his back.

Coolest thing so far was Crosby running over the catcher the ball popping loose, the pitcher who was backing up recovering the ball, and then tagging Crosby out before he could get back to the plate.

Steve Kuffrey · 02-27-2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aleib

I preordered MLB 07 the show for PSP(hey I don't have any consoles) but haven't picked it up yet. I'm in the same boat you are though, I much prefer the text sims to the console games and have for a very long time. I just finished my preorder for OOTP07 and I'm eagerly anticipating its release.

I just got MLB '07 The Show for PSP and hoping to get some playing time in soon, '06 for PSP was fantastic.

megamanmatt · 02-27-2007, 11:39 PM

I suppose I'm mostly in the same boat too. After playing OOTP the problem is almost all baseball games I play on consoles just feel like they are lacking so much, although admittedly they really are two different types of games in their own right with OOTP being a management sim and MLB2k (all of the 2k's) being more of just a sports sim. My biggest problem with console games like the 2k series and MVP is very, very rarly do they work in such a realistic way as OOTP. Partly that comes from the age old human vs. AI battle. I prefer having more realistic stats and so far I've yet to find a console game that does that well. However I haven't played 2k7 yet so it could be good in that department. Enough of my rambling.

Qrusher14242 · 02-28-2007, 12:42 AM

i just got mlb 07 the show for ps2 and i get terrible lag after the ball is hit

Dissapointing, can barely play. Will prolly go back to 06.

Giants44 · 02-28-2007, 03:25 AM

I am having fun playing and played over at a friends house tonight, which is really a console game strength playing with and against friends.

It is just that in a game like that realism is never really possible because of how good and bad everyone is with a joystick.

It was funny as hell though to watch one of our friends strikeout every single time.

every once in awhile the console is a great deal of fun, day to day play I will stick with OOTP.

as for the show I have never played it, and I like the concept, but we don't have any PS products so I guess we are out of luck.

Claymore · 02-28-2007, 03:35 AM

how is the franchise version in both of the games?

The Wolf · 02-28-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Qrusher14242

i just got mlb 07 the show for ps2 and i get terrible lag after the ball is hit

Dissapointing, can barely play. Will prolly go back to 06.

Wow, that's depressing. You playing it on PSP, PS2 or PS3?

ctorg · 02-28-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NomarHits400

Speaking of MLB 2K7- wouldn't OOTP be a hoot with the usual OOTP depth- but using the 2K7 graphical engine to show gameplay...All AI decisions could still be generated by the OOTP AI- but the game would be visually rendered with the 2K7 visuals.....Man...I would pay ALOT to play that game...

That's where I ultimately hope to see OOTP go one day.

Go Tribe · 02-28-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

Wow, that's depressing. You playing it on PSP, PS2 or PS3?

you quoted him saying it was on the ps2!

Bluenoser · 02-28-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NomarHits400

Speaking of MLB 2K7- wouldn't OOTP be a hoot with the usual OOTP depth- but using the 2K7 graphical engine to show gameplay...All AI decisions could still be generated by the OOTP AI- but the game would be visually rendered with the 2K7 visuals.....Man...I would pay ALOT to play that game...

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Originally Posted by ctorg

That's where I ultimately hope to see OOTP go one day.

I hope OOTP stays true to its roots (text based sim) and never goes there.

Nu-Bru · 02-28-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

I hope OOTP stays true to its roots (text based sim) and never goes there.

I actually agree with you in this forum, Bruce!

rocketeer928 · 03-01-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

I hope OOTP stays true to its roots (text based sim) and never goes there.

I'll second that!

LeiterFanatic · 03-01-2007, 09:08 AM

I am VERY pleased with the manager mode of The SHOW on PSP this year. You can call a lot of options for each pitch and each batter strategically and the dugout view of the game is sweet. The loading screens this year are not the same four "did you know" screens but actually league info, such as probable starters for a series, standings and stat leaders. well done!

Giants44 · 03-01-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Claymore

how is the franchise version in both of the games?

MLB2k7 - they have cleaned up the interface quite a bit and I haven't played enough (gone through an off-season or anything like that) to see how good it is. I think it is OK for a console game, but doesn't come close to touching OOTP v3.

Giants44 · 03-01-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

I hope OOTP stays true to its roots (text based sim) and never goes there.

I really think Markus and company have a difficult choice on this because I think there are hardcore players on both sides of this issue.

I personally love the game and will be happy if it never progresses graphically but continues to improve in AI and depth.

However - I absolutely loved playing games like FPS 98, Earl Weaver and Tony LaRussa - a modern 3D representation that was fast but had the accuracy and depth of OOTP behind it is to me the holy grail of gaming.

darkenigma510 · 03-01-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LeiterFanatic

I am VERY pleased with the manager mode of The SHOW on PSP this year. You can call a lot of options for each pitch and each batter strategically and the dugout view of the game is sweet. The loading screens this year are not the same four "did you know" screens but actually league info, such as probable starters for a series, standings and stat leaders. well done!

Yep, I second this. PSP version is great and MOM is a wonderful addition for the handheld. and Revised career mode looks intriguing too. Think ITP goes visual!

02-27-2007, 08:01 PM	#1
Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 2,408	MLB2K7 vs OOTP So I picked up MLB2K7 today for the 360 and it really is a good game. beautiful to look at and fun to play. However as I was playing it I was actually wanting to go TEST OOTP 2007. Not play mind you, but test (and there is a big difference) Now to be fair I have always preferred text sport sim games, at least in part because I am no joystick jockey and my 9 year old is already at the point where he can usually beat me in most console games (but he does play a lot more then I do.) But still this is a state of the art $60 HD game and I think it shows how far OOTP has come in the past year. Believe me last year I played MLB2k6 a lot more then I played OOTP 2006. Having said that I recommend renting or picking up MLB2k7 - it will help pass the time till March 23 - but if you are anything like me it will start to get pretty dusty right about that day. __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah

02-28-2007, 12:42 AM	#8
Qrusher14242 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: CA Posts: 1,253	i just got mlb 07 the show for ps2 and i get terrible lag after the ball is hit Dissapointing, can barely play. Will prolly go back to 06. __________________ "Go then, there are other worlds than these"

02-28-2007, 03:25 AM	#9
Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 2,408	I am having fun playing and played over at a friends house tonight, which is really a console game strength playing with and against friends. It is just that in a game like that realism is never really possible because of how good and bad everyone is with a joystick. It was funny as hell though to watch one of our friends strikeout every single time. every once in awhile the console is a great deal of fun, day to day play I will stick with OOTP. as for the show I have never played it, and I like the concept, but we don't have any PS products so I guess we are out of luck. __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah

02-27-2007, 09:59 PM	#3
aleib Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: El Sobrante, Ca Posts: 59	I preordered MLB 07 the show for PSP(hey I don't have any consoles) but haven't picked it up yet. I'm in the same boat you are though, I much prefer the text sims to the console games and have for a very long time. I just finished my preorder for OOTP07 and I'm eagerly anticipating its release.

02-27-2007, 10:45 PM	#4
NomarHits400 Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 347	Speaking of MLB 2K7- wouldn't OOTP be a hoot with the usual OOTP depth- but using the 2K7 graphical engine to show gameplay...All AI decisions could still be generated by the OOTP AI- but the game would be visually rendered with the 2K7 visuals.....Man...I would pay ALOT to play that game...

02-27-2007, 11:39 PM	#7
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	I suppose I'm mostly in the same boat too. After playing OOTP the problem is almost all baseball games I play on consoles just feel like they are lacking so much, although admittedly they really are two different types of games in their own right with OOTP being a management sim and MLB2k (all of the 2k's) being more of just a sports sim. My biggest problem with console games like the 2k series and MVP is very, very rarly do they work in such a realistic way as OOTP. Partly that comes from the age old human vs. AI battle. I prefer having more realistic stats and so far I've yet to find a console game that does that well. However I haven't played 2k7 yet so it could be good in that department. Enough of my rambling.

02-28-2007, 03:35 AM	#10
Claymore All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 764	how is the franchise version in both of the games?

03-01-2007, 09:08 AM	#17
LeiterFanatic All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,358	I am VERY pleased with the manager mode of The SHOW on PSP this year. You can call a lot of options for each pitch and each batter strategically and the dugout view of the game is sweet. The loading screens this year are not the same four "did you know" screens but actually league info, such as probable starters for a series, standings and stat leaders. well done!