MNF Announcers

bababui · 08-14-2006, 08:11 PM

So far the seem to be more worried about sounding smooth and ESPNish than informative or entertaining.

Why is Kornheiser there??

Why is Tirico speaking in that weird announcer way??

Is this really an improvement?

bababui · 08-14-2006, 08:26 PM

Its gotten a little better now that they are getting into the flow of the game.

The Professor · 08-14-2006, 08:29 PM

I'm holding off from making a final decision, but some observations based on the past:

1. Kornheiser, if he isn't doing PTI schtick, is True Talent. I believe they are trying to create a modern Howard Cosell (Take 2 after the Dennis Miller debacle) and don't expect him to do much more than make occasional comments

2. Joe Theismann has never been a good color analyst IMO. A step down from Madden (and I've not been a Madden fan for a decade now)

3. Tirico seems to lead a charmed life. Overrated as a PBP guy, he is the case study for announcers who try to make EVERY play sound like the most exciting play ever.

Two out of three ain't bad, except in this case it is two bad against one potential positive that really won't shape much of the broadcast.

Russ · 08-14-2006, 08:42 PM

Tirico is okay for golf, but Ive always hated him doing football. Kornheiser is going to be okay. He's been saying for months how nervous he is about tonight.

Erik W. · 08-14-2006, 08:43 PM

It's their preseason, too, so I'm not putting much stock into tonight. I think Tony is doing well, though. And I've never like Theissman, so that's not going to change. I guess it will come down to how they can make it flow, and how entertaining Tony can be without going into goofy-mode.

bababui · 08-14-2006, 08:51 PM

Is it too early to call for Aaron Brooks to be benched?

magnet · 08-14-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Is it too early to call for Aaron Brooks to be benched?

Yes. You can call that in Week 17.

GForce · 08-14-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor

3. Tirico seems to lead a charmed life. Overrated as a PBP guy, he is the case study for announcers who try to make EVERY play sound like the most exciting play ever.

The guy, who I happen to like, but I hear this the most about is Gary Thorne. Frankly, with Thorne I just think that's his voice. I don't think it's an effort, it's just him.

GH

bababui · 08-14-2006, 10:12 PM

The Fred Smoot/Michelle Trafoya interview was classic. Two people speaking two different languages. Why bother asking if he wont answer?

Jonzard · 08-14-2006, 10:25 PM

Tirico is good. Tony is TT all the way. I block out the rest of the team in the booth.

Jonzard · 08-14-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

The Fred Smoot/Michelle Trafoya interview was classic. Two people speaking two different languages. Why bother asking if he wont answer?

The truth is the truth

mgom27 · 08-15-2006, 08:20 AM

They all Good.
Could have team Mike Patrick,Paul MaGuire back with Joe after Al Michaels went to NBC with John Madden.

jaxmagicman · 08-15-2006, 09:06 AM

I can't wait until Tony and Theisman have to fight for air time. You know Theisman can't stand anybody taking his air time.

andjbock · 08-15-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GForce

The guy, who I happen to like, but I hear this the most about is Gary Thorne. Frankly, with Thorne I just think that's his voice. I don't think it's an effort, it's just him.

GH

Thorne should be doing MNF.

JDOldSchool · 08-15-2006, 12:04 PM

I can't stand Kornheiser. Hated his radio show and I can't even watch PTI when he's on it. The best PTI is when he's on vacation. He's obnoxious and rarely funny. I don't give him much credit for sports knowledge, either.

I like Tirico when he does golf and basketball, so I'm willing to give him a chance. Theisman might be alright without Maguire and Patrick there. At least that's what I hope. Otherwise MNF broadcasts will be as painful as the Sunday night games were in the past.

The Professor · 08-15-2006, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

I can't stand Kornheiser. Hated his radio show and I can't even watch PTI when he's on it. The best PTI is when he's on vacation. He's obnoxious and rarely funny. I don't give him much credit for sports knowledge, either.

I like Tirico when he does golf and basketball, so I'm willing to give him a chance. Theisman might be alright without Maguire and Patrick there. At least that's what I hope. Otherwise MNF broadcasts will be as painful as the Sunday night games were in the past.

Nah. Kornheiser can be excellent. I can understand not liking his PTI schtick - it is annoying - but that is all facade. If you don't credit him with much sports knowledge, you're dead wrong. I think he likes to play the "bumbling, I don't know anything" role, but I've read Kornheiser for years and I think he can be really insightful and on the mark. But, I guess to each their own.

As for Theismann, he was half of what was wrong with Sunday Night Football (Maguire being the other half). Patrick, when he stuck to PbP, was passable and I hope the same will be true of Tirico. Between Paul's "let me tell you" or "look at this" ranting and Joe's fifty "I spoke to [insert name] yesterday and..." or 75%+ incorrect appraisal of the action "they'll run here [as the team drops for a pass]" SNF was a nightmare.

I think Theismann is bad enough to make even a decent Tirico and a top-notch Kornheiser hard to listen to. Maybe I'll learn to tune him out.

jaxmagicman · 08-15-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor

Nah. Kornheiser can be excellent. I can understand not liking his PTI schtick - it is annoying - but that is all facade. If you don't credit him with much sports knowledge, you're dead wrong. I think he likes to play the "bumbling, I don't know anything" role, but I've read Kornheiser for years and I think he can be really insightful and on the mark. But, I guess to each their own.

As for Theismann, he was half of what was wrong with Sunday Night Football (Maguire being the other half). Patrick, when he stuck to PbP, was passable and I hope the same will be true of Tirico. Between Paul's "let me tell you" or "look at this" ranting and Joe's fifty "I spoke to [insert name] yesterday and..." or 75%+ incorrect appraisal of the action "they'll run here [as the team drops for a pass]" SNF was a nightmare.

I think Theismann is bad enough to make even a decent Tirico and a top-notch Kornheiser hard to listen to. Maybe I'll learn to tune him out.

If you suceed in tuning Theisman out, please let me know how.

BlackHatCowboy · 08-15-2006, 01:06 PM

Love Kornheiser. Love PTI too. I'm looking forward to this season's MNF.

JDOldSchool · 08-15-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor

Nah. Kornheiser can be excellent. I can understand not liking his PTI schtick - it is annoying - but that is all facade. If you don't credit him with much sports knowledge, you're dead wrong. I think he likes to play the "bumbling, I don't know anything" role, but I've read Kornheiser for years and I think he can be really insightful and on the mark. But, I guess to each their own.

I've never read him, but I would occasionally listen to his radio show years ago and every now and then catch PTI. I was unaware that he was playing a character. If he does have genuine insight, then I wish he'd display that more often. His TV/Radio gimmick doesn't work for him.

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As for Theismann, he was half of what was wrong with Sunday Night Football (Maguire being the other half). Patrick, when he stuck to PbP, was passable and I hope the same will be true of Tirico. Between Paul's "let me tell you" or "look at this" ranting and Joe's fifty "I spoke to [insert name] yesterday and..." or 75%+ incorrect appraisal of the action "they'll run here [as the team drops for a pass]" SNF was a nightmare.

I agree with most of that, but Patrick killed me, too. ESPN then put Patrick with Dick Vitale on college games and I'm pretty sure I almost killed myself that night. Patrick isn't too bad at just describing the action, but he seems incapable of doing just that.

Russ · 08-15-2006, 03:04 PM

I find myself pulling for Tony like he was an old friend.

08-14-2006, 08:11 PM	#1
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	MNF Announcers So far the seem to be more worried about sounding smooth and ESPNish than informative or entertaining. Why is Kornheiser there?? Why is Tirico speaking in that weird announcer way?? Is this really an improvement?

08-14-2006, 08:29 PM	#3
The Professor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: East of East Posts: 3,020	I'm holding off from making a final decision, but some observations based on the past: 1. Kornheiser, if he isn't doing PTI schtick, is True Talent. I believe they are trying to create a modern Howard Cosell (Take 2 after the Dennis Miller debacle) and don't expect him to do much more than make occasional comments 2. Joe Theismann has never been a good color analyst IMO. A step down from Madden (and I've not been a Madden fan for a decade now) 3. Tirico seems to lead a charmed life. Overrated as a PBP guy, he is the case study for announcers who try to make EVERY play sound like the most exciting play ever. Two out of three ain't bad, except in this case it is two bad against one potential positive that really won't shape much of the broadcast. __________________ History isn't really about the past - settling old scores. It's about defining the present and who we are."

08-14-2006, 08:42 PM	#4
Russ All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex HON! Posts: 1,923 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Tirico is okay for golf, but Ive always hated him doing football. Kornheiser is going to be okay. He's been saying for months how nervous he is about tonight. __________________ If you don't love Russ, you don't love America. This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.

08-14-2006, 08:43 PM	#5
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	It's their preseason, too, so I'm not putting much stock into tonight. I think Tony is doing well, though. And I've never like Theissman, so that's not going to change. I guess it will come down to how they can make it flow, and how entertaining Tony can be without going into goofy-mode. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!

08-14-2006, 10:25 PM	#10
Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	Tirico is good. Tony is TT all the way. I block out the rest of the team in the booth. __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

08-14-2006, 08:26 PM	#2
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Its gotten a little better now that they are getting into the flow of the game.

08-14-2006, 08:51 PM	#6
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Is it too early to call for Aaron Brooks to be benched?

08-14-2006, 10:12 PM	#9
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	The Fred Smoot/Michelle Trafoya interview was classic. Two people speaking two different languages. Why bother asking if he wont answer?

08-15-2006, 08:20 AM	#12
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,529	They all Good. Could have team Mike Patrick,Paul MaGuire back with Joe after Al Michaels went to NBC with John Madden. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

08-15-2006, 09:06 AM	#13
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	I can't wait until Tony and Theisman have to fight for air time. You know Theisman can't stand anybody taking his air time. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

08-15-2006, 12:04 PM	#15
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	I can't stand Kornheiser. Hated his radio show and I can't even watch PTI when he's on it. The best PTI is when he's on vacation. He's obnoxious and rarely funny. I don't give him much credit for sports knowledge, either. I like Tirico when he does golf and basketball, so I'm willing to give him a chance. Theisman might be alright without Maguire and Patrick there. At least that's what I hope. Otherwise MNF broadcasts will be as painful as the Sunday night games were in the past.

08-15-2006, 01:06 PM	#18
BlackHatCowboy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wichita Posts: 94	Love Kornheiser. Love PTI too. I'm looking forward to this season's MNF.

08-15-2006, 03:04 PM	#20
Russ All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex HON! Posts: 1,923 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I find myself pulling for Tony like he was an old friend. __________________ If you don't love Russ, you don't love America. This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.