Question on Regional Groups, Prefernces

American_Ernesider · 04-01-2006, 11:51 AM

I just wanted to get a feel for how everyone else is separating their fighters into different reginal groups. Previously I had a North Amer., South Amer., Europe/African, Asian/Pacific. I've seen some others that combined African/Arabian, Europe by itsef, etc.

My biggest issues involve North America and Asia. The sheer # of US/Mexican fighters makes the N/A a big group. As for Asia, I never know where to put countries like Russia. Sometimes I move fighters based on regional needs, but I definitely want to have some consistency.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts/opinions, etc.

CONN CHRIS · 04-01-2006, 07:45 PM

I have five geographical groupings and numbers are forever a problem. I find that I have to be flexible. A few examples of where I make exceptions:

1) I move Mexicans into the South American group if numbers dictate (there will always be enough Americans and Canadians to fill North America)
2) I always include Pakistanis in the African and Middle Eastern group even though they are Asian by geography.
3) All the former Soviet states can go to Europe or Asia and Oceania depending on need
4) At the lower weights Europe is quite limited so I will move Asian and Oceania fighters that are from countries that compete in the commonwealth games to Europe on the assumption that they are fighting out of the U.K.
5) Turkish fighters go to Europe or Africa/Middle East depending on need
6) Hawaiian boxers almost always go to the Asian/Oceania region given the glut of American fighters.

Jeff1787 · 04-01-2006, 10:23 PM

I am only doing heavyweights in my current universe and came up with these 7 regions:

Europe-Europe, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia (47 fighters)
British Isles-England, Ireland and Scotland (40 fighters)
Africa (14 fighters)
Latin America-Mexico, Central America, South American and the Caribbean (28 fighters)
South Pacific-Australia, Asia and Pacific Islands (10 fighters)
Canada (14 fighters)
United States-4 sections (North Eastern, South, Midwest and West) (112, 50, 80, 66 = 308 fighters)

American_Ernesider · 04-04-2006, 10:44 PM

That gives me a good idea what some others are doing. Here are a couple of additional questions:

1) Are your regional champions top fighters (something like a champion in one of the "world" titles in real life), or are they more for the up-and-comers or older fighters (like the NABF or USBA)?
a) If they are top fighters, if the win your top title, do they keep both, or vacate the regional one?

2) How do you handle fighters who fought at various weight classes? Do you pick one weight class and stick with it? (A fighter like Holyfield might dominate the CW division, but not necessarily the HW the same way)

Thanks again!

CONN CHRIS · 04-04-2006, 11:18 PM

1) I have dozens of minor belts for the young guys. The 5 geographical titles are big deals in my fake little world surpassed only by the world champion.

1a) I have a rule that all belts are vacated when a fighter wins a world title. I also vacate minor belts when a fighter wins a geographical belt and there are good boxers in the wings to challenge for the little belts. Otherwise, multiple belts can be held below the World title level.

2) I have just chosen one division and stuck with it.

Tomato Can · 04-07-2006, 04:59 PM

I am always looking for ways to tweak and better my universe as well. This is the area that I struggle with the most.

Do any of you other guys have any other suggestions as to how you seperate your groups or regions?

Does anyone know of any links that give you the actual groupings in real life?

Thanks in advance!

Cap · 04-07-2006, 10:28 PM

At the moment, I have three regional titles to compliment the one World title and I only use heavyweights. The three regionals are: British Empire (including all present Commonwealth countries), European Boxing Union (EBU) and North American Boxing Federation (NABF) which is of less significance at the moment than the first two. I had a Latin American title at one point, but pay it only passing attention now.

Cap

American_Ernesider · 04-09-2006, 10:36 PM

How about weight classes? Are most using all of the current classes, or using the older, traditional ones?

Thanks.

gocubsgo · 08-05-2006, 02:09 AM

Okay found this old thread and decided to ask a question based on this. What do you guys use to determine whether a fight is ranked in the regional title ranking and at what point does he move to the world rankings? Do you use a number of fights or say the top 5 within each region? Just not sure how to have some guys ranked in two different groups.

JCWeb · 08-12-2006, 01:45 AM

I have all the guys on one list (not that many yet anyway, at most no more than 50 non-TC guys per division) and just match up guys for the regional belts as best seems appropriate -- no separate groups or ratings. USA guys are eligible for NABF and USBA belts. Canadian guys, for NABF and CBU (British Commonwealth). European guys for EBU. No Asian guys yet, but would create OPBF for them. British guys have more options, eligible for GBU, CBU and EBU belts. Irish guys, since not part of the British Commonwealth, I have down for EBU only. I only have a couple of South Africans but so far haven't created a special belt for them. Everyone of course is eligible for the one World title belt, which I call the WBA. None of these phoney alphabet soup titles for me.

But you should do it however you see it, that's the beauty of this game.

04-01-2006, 11:51 AM	#1
American_Ernesider Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 365	Question on Regional Groups, Prefernces I just wanted to get a feel for how everyone else is separating their fighters into different reginal groups. Previously I had a North Amer., South Amer., Europe/African, Asian/Pacific. I've seen some others that combined African/Arabian, Europe by itsef, etc. My biggest issues involve North America and Asia. The sheer # of US/Mexican fighters makes the N/A a big group. As for Asia, I never know where to put countries like Russia. Sometimes I move fighters based on regional needs, but I definitely want to have some consistency. Thanks in advance for any thoughts/opinions, etc.

04-01-2006, 07:45 PM	#2
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,104	I have five geographical groupings and numbers are forever a problem. I find that I have to be flexible. A few examples of where I make exceptions: 1) I move Mexicans into the South American group if numbers dictate (there will always be enough Americans and Canadians to fill North America) 2) I always include Pakistanis in the African and Middle Eastern group even though they are Asian by geography. 3) All the former Soviet states can go to Europe or Asia and Oceania depending on need 4) At the lower weights Europe is quite limited so I will move Asian and Oceania fighters that are from countries that compete in the commonwealth games to Europe on the assumption that they are fighting out of the U.K. 5) Turkish fighters go to Europe or Africa/Middle East depending on need 6) Hawaiian boxers almost always go to the Asian/Oceania region given the glut of American fighters. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

04-04-2006, 10:44 PM	#4
American_Ernesider Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 365	Thanks...a couple more That gives me a good idea what some others are doing. Here are a couple of additional questions: 1) Are your regional champions top fighters (something like a champion in one of the "world" titles in real life), or are they more for the up-and-comers or older fighters (like the NABF or USBA)? a) If they are top fighters, if the win your top title, do they keep both, or vacate the regional one? 2) How do you handle fighters who fought at various weight classes? Do you pick one weight class and stick with it? (A fighter like Holyfield might dominate the CW division, but not necessarily the HW the same way) Thanks again!

04-04-2006, 11:18 PM	#5
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,104	1) I have dozens of minor belts for the young guys. The 5 geographical titles are big deals in my fake little world surpassed only by the world champion. 1a) I have a rule that all belts are vacated when a fighter wins a world title. I also vacate minor belts when a fighter wins a geographical belt and there are good boxers in the wings to challenge for the little belts. Otherwise, multiple belts can be held below the World title level. 2) I have just chosen one division and stuck with it. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

04-07-2006, 10:28 PM	#7
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,047	At the moment, I have three regional titles to compliment the one World title and I only use heavyweights. The three regionals are: British Empire (including all present Commonwealth countries), European Boxing Union (EBU) and North American Boxing Federation (NABF) which is of less significance at the moment than the first two. I had a Latin American title at one point, but pay it only passing attention now. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

04-01-2006, 10:23 PM	#3
Jeff1787 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Doghouse Posts: 3,558	I am only doing heavyweights in my current universe and came up with these 7 regions: Europe-Europe, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia (47 fighters) British Isles-England, Ireland and Scotland (40 fighters) Africa (14 fighters) Latin America-Mexico, Central America, South American and the Caribbean (28 fighters) South Pacific-Australia, Asia and Pacific Islands (10 fighters) Canada (14 fighters) United States-4 sections (North Eastern, South, Midwest and West) (112, 50, 80, 66 = 308 fighters)

04-07-2006, 04:59 PM	#6
Tomato Can Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 431	I am always looking for ways to tweak and better my universe as well. This is the area that I struggle with the most. Do any of you other guys have any other suggestions as to how you seperate your groups or regions? Does anyone know of any links that give you the actual groupings in real life? Thanks in advance!

04-09-2006, 10:36 PM	#8
American_Ernesider Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 365	Weight Classes How about weight classes? Are most using all of the current classes, or using the older, traditional ones? Thanks.

08-05-2006, 02:09 AM	#9
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,556	Okay found this old thread and decided to ask a question based on this. What do you guys use to determine whether a fight is ranked in the regional title ranking and at what point does he move to the world rankings? Do you use a number of fights or say the top 5 within each region? Just not sure how to have some guys ranked in two different groups.

08-12-2006, 01:45 AM	#10
JCWeb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,099	Here's How I Do It ... I have all the guys on one list (not that many yet anyway, at most no more than 50 non-TC guys per division) and just match up guys for the regional belts as best seems appropriate -- no separate groups or ratings. USA guys are eligible for NABF and USBA belts. Canadian guys, for NABF and CBU (British Commonwealth). European guys for EBU. No Asian guys yet, but would create OPBF for them. British guys have more options, eligible for GBU, CBU and EBU belts. Irish guys, since not part of the British Commonwealth, I have down for EBU only. I only have a couple of South Africans but so far haven't created a special belt for them. Everyone of course is eligible for the one World title belt, which I call the WBA. None of these phoney alphabet soup titles for me. But you should do it however you see it, that's the beauty of this game.