Need some help creating a universe

Boozie1580 · 06-23-2006, 08:11 PM

I'm making a universe with a LOT of teams. So many that I don't intend on having a minonr league system set up for any of my leagues, unless I absolutely have to (detail in each individual league isn't very important, so I can deal with the lack of realism in terms of AI moves if there isn't a minor league system). Now, I've seen a couple threads about historical leagues mentioning that it's better to have a "reserve roster" than a minor league system so the CPU doesn't create a ton of fictional players. What exactly does this mean? I assumed that they meant just having a 40-man roster witha 25-man active roster so that each team can carry 15 "reserve" players, but I don't see how that would work. As far as I know, players on the 40-man still have to be assigned somewhere else, whether it's the minors, majors, or the DL. I guess the DL could be used for that purpose but I doubt the CPU would know how to handle that correctly (playing uninjured reserve players on the DL as opposed to just releasing them if they don't make the 25-man squad). Any help?

Dogzilla · 06-23-2006, 11:45 PM

In my experience if you don't have any minors the AI will keep a reserve roster of between 20-25 players, and there doesn't seem to be a way to change that. There also seems to be a poor distribution of positions on the reerve roster, for example a reserve squad may have 6 1Bs and no SPs. I'm working on a league similar to yours and I've decided to make my "reserve roster" an informal single-A minor league to make the AI run it like a real team. If there is going to be 20+ players in reserve they might as well be doing something. I've posted a request in the wish list section for a "reserve roster size" option because it doesn't seem to use the "secondary roster size" option for that purpose.

Questdog · 06-23-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogzilla

I'm working on a league similar to yours and I've decided to make my "reserve roster" an informal single-A minor league to make the AI run it like a real team. If there is going to be 20+ players in reserve they might as well be doing something.

I think you'll find that the minor league team will have it's own reserve roster...

Dogzilla · 06-24-2006, 12:04 AM

It's not an independent minor league, it's a regular, affiliated minor league team--it will still have a reserve roster? I haven't seen that, but I'll check for it.

Questdog · 06-24-2006, 12:34 AM

Now that you mention it, I believe the situation I saw it, was an affiliated league with unaffiliated teams....

I really wish we could squish those reserve rosters...

Syd Thrift · 06-24-2006, 02:48 AM

The reserve roster has its faults, but I just wanted to point out that from the beginning of the 20th century and into the 1920s, reserve rosters are exactly what major league baseball used to deal with prospects and fill-ins not quite good enough to be on the regular roster. According to Andrew Zimbalist in In the Best Interests of Baseball?, by 1909 most teams had more than 40 players under contract (with major league rosters at the time of IIRC 21 players), with a couple over 50. The 40-man rule was developed in 1912 to keep rich teams from hoarding every kid with a live arm they could find.

Thought I'd share this piece of historical trivia so y'all don't feel like your deadball era leagues are wholly inaccurate when they use this rule.

06-23-2006, 08:11 PM	#1
Boozie1580 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MD Posts: 1,255	Need some help creating a universe I'm making a universe with a LOT of teams. So many that I don't intend on having a minonr league system set up for any of my leagues, unless I absolutely have to (detail in each individual league isn't very important, so I can deal with the lack of realism in terms of AI moves if there isn't a minor league system). Now, I've seen a couple threads about historical leagues mentioning that it's better to have a "reserve roster" than a minor league system so the CPU doesn't create a ton of fictional players. What exactly does this mean? I assumed that they meant just having a 40-man roster witha 25-man active roster so that each team can carry 15 "reserve" players, but I don't see how that would work. As far as I know, players on the 40-man still have to be assigned somewhere else, whether it's the minors, majors, or the DL. I guess the DL could be used for that purpose but I doubt the CPU would know how to handle that correctly (playing uninjured reserve players on the DL as opposed to just releasing them if they don't make the 25-man squad). Any help? __________________

06-23-2006, 11:45 PM	#2
Dogzilla Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 421	In my experience if you don't have any minors the AI will keep a reserve roster of between 20-25 players, and there doesn't seem to be a way to change that. There also seems to be a poor distribution of positions on the reerve roster, for example a reserve squad may have 6 1Bs and no SPs. I'm working on a league similar to yours and I've decided to make my "reserve roster" an informal single-A minor league to make the AI run it like a real team. If there is going to be 20+ players in reserve they might as well be doing something. I've posted a request in the wish list section for a "reserve roster size" option because it doesn't seem to use the "secondary roster size" option for that purpose.

06-24-2006, 12:04 AM	#4
Dogzilla Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 421	It's not an independent minor league, it's a regular, affiliated minor league team--it will still have a reserve roster? I haven't seen that, but I'll check for it.

06-24-2006, 12:34 AM	#5
Questdog Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases...... Posts: 16,142	Now that you mention it, I believe the situation I saw it, was an affiliated league with unaffiliated teams.... I really wish we could squish those reserve rosters...

06-24-2006, 02:48 AM	#6
Syd Thrift Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,612	The reserve roster has its faults, but I just wanted to point out that from the beginning of the 20th century and into the 1920s, reserve rosters are exactly what major league baseball used to deal with prospects and fill-ins not quite good enough to be on the regular roster. According to Andrew Zimbalist in In the Best Interests of Baseball?, by 1909 most teams had more than 40 players under contract (with major league rosters at the time of IIRC 21 players), with a couple over 50. The 40-man rule was developed in 1912 to keep rich teams from hoarding every kid with a live arm they could find. Thought I'd share this piece of historical trivia so y'all don't feel like your deadball era leagues are wholly inaccurate when they use this rule.