Weather-Oh My

targy · 06-11-2006, 10:54 AM

Since when has wearher not played in important part of baseball. ppd becuase of rain, snow...etc This is a problem. This game strives to be realistic but has no weather factors. " Its a high drive to center field its going going, no wait the wind held it up and the Centerfielder makes a routine catch" Possible huh. " It's the 6th inning and the rain is really coming down, that's it the umpire calls for a rain delay. The rain delay lasts 50 minutes and the game resumes but the starting pitcher seems to have lost some of his stuff and the manager goes to the mound and calls for a relief pitcher." Possible huh. Nope not in this game and for those that feel that weather is just not an important change right now. Oh well. Markus bring back the weather, PLEASE!!!!!! I really want to start playing this game and I have been setting things up but I am waiting for a few things. 1. Weather 2. Someone who can has a stadium set with x&y coordinates, even if it is an excel file I will change them myself..3. I want some sort of STAR system for those of us that may not be good at finding potential and want an easier way to see how good players are. Yes this is a new game and no I will not give up on it OOTP, It has and always will be the best baseball game around and I have played since the first edition. Thanks Markus for all your hard work and I know in time all the bugs will be gone becuase that is the way you have always taken care of us

Raidergoo · 06-11-2006, 10:58 AM

No weather factors, and the request has been loudly made.

targy · 06-11-2006, 01:17 PM

So you want a game that is as realistic as it gets but no weather factors. OK. I guess that the tropical storm that is heading to Florida or any other weather that effects how you have to change your starting lineup or may give that player with an injury an extra day off is not realistic, that makes alot of sense. That game that the Red Sox could not play becuase of rain would not exist in this game. You want it all but you really don't want it all. Explain further why? Give me a good argument that would convince me the reason why people do not want weather factors and I promise if it is a good reason I will listen and maybe change my mind. I do not know how but run a poll and if there is one give me the link. but I want reasons why. See I like to shuffle my lineups when a game gets postponed because of weather. And I want to hear from those who want weather.

Mariner and Giants Fan · 06-11-2006, 01:42 PM

That this (weather) was not included! This is akin to not including bunting, or park factors! How could this be? I could expect something like this from Baseball Mogul, or a novice entry into Baseball Simulations, but OOTP!? say it ain't so, Markus!

Raidergoo · 06-11-2006, 02:07 PM

I suggest you open cities.txt and figure out how to model weather globally. Report with any suggestions. I have made a suggestion on this and would gladly welcome more thoughts.

onthepunt · 06-11-2006, 02:13 PM

it is incredible how any baseball management/sim game can not include weather or bullpen warm ups

targy · 06-11-2006, 02:14 PM

I wish I could tell you how but I wish there was a way that if you wanted the wether on you could toggle it on and off. But Markus I am sure can figure this one out. WE NEED WEATHER. The world is affected by weather. It affects not only baseball but everyday things...A world without weather, can you imagine 70 degree sunshinny days everywhere no more winter, spring, summer or fall just 70 degree weather all day and all night. Perfection, no more skiing or snowboarding. No more hurricanes or tornadoes. No more floods. No more Ice storms....WOW a perfect world and a real boring one. And I guess that pitchers just want to go into the game cold, That works. A managers dream never having to call down to the bullpen for a pitcher to warm up. Just go out to the mound and call a pitcher in to pitch. His arm would last 2 minutes and then it would blow out...Doctors could get rich performing so many Tommy John surgeries

Killing Time · 06-11-2006, 02:42 PM

There's no weather, and a lot of other essential baseball functions are missing, but on the bright side you can now create a league in Ghana.

targy · 06-11-2006, 02:45 PM

I can't wait to send my scout to Ghana. By the way how many MLB players are from Ghana. We can start a trend. This world baseball stuff is just another time waster....That player from Ghana better be great for me to spend the clubs money on and the cost of the trip there. How much per diem does my coach get for hotels and meals...LOL

Beach23BoyP · 06-11-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Killing Time

There's no weather, and a lot of other essential baseball functions are missing, but on the bright side you can now create a league in Ghana.

Yes, and why you can't play with Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays -- you can now however, play with Volodimer Macheshich and Chothko Makhnovich.

targy · 06-11-2006, 02:53 PM

The best thing is how long it takes you to set up a game. I found a great file at Files.Simcentral.net OOTP 2 for stadium dimensions and I go to Munsey and Suppes for updates to stadiums. it is a little old but you can update the excel file and add the newest stadiums. Check the mod section for an excel file that helps with ballpark factors...WE NEED WEATHER. I have not even started a game yet with all the bugs eveyone has found I am working on other things within the game till it gets better and WE GET WEATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Killing Time · 06-11-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Beach23BoyP

Yes, and why you can't play with Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays -- you can now however, play with Volodimer Macheshich and Chothko Makhnovich.

Because OOTP2006 is all about world fantasy baseball but has only a passing acquaintace with real baseball.

But when the lack of standard features from OOTP6, the gameplay issues and the AI issues drive you up the wall just remember . . . you can now create a league in Ghana.

Killing Time · 06-11-2006, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

I suggest you open cities.txt and figure out how to model weather globally. Report with any suggestions. I have made a suggestion on this and would gladly welcome more thoughts.

http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritt...ification.html

http://www.fao.org/WAICENT/faoinfo/s...e/EIsp0066.htm

targy · 06-11-2006, 03:05 PM

I guess if someone took the same time as it takes to try to play this game they would have found a way to adjust the climate for the world...Again I know Markus will figure things out he alwasy does

JimG · 06-11-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan

That this (weather) was not included! This is akin to not including bunting, or park factors! How could this be? I could expect something like this from Baseball Mogul, or a novice entry into Baseball Simulations, but OOTP!? say it ain't so, Markus!

Well Mogul has temp, humidity and wind for each game. And stadium effects derived from dimensions and altitude which folks here have been clamoring for. Shows you how much ootp has gone backwards this year. This has gone from frustrating to sad. I bet if we scream loudly enough well get it but its going to take a while.

Killing Time · 06-11-2006, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JimG

Well Mogul has temp, humidity and wind for each game. And stadium effects derived from dimensions and altitude which folks here have been clamoring for.

Having players from Ghana was more important.

Herd Fan · 06-11-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Killing Time

There's no weather, and a lot of other essential baseball functions are missing, but on the bright side you can now create a league in Ghana.

I agree with you on the weather, but realize there are many of us who are thrilled beyond belief that we can set up international leagues; I've been dying to play a Cuban league for years. There are a ton of problems with this game, but don't knock one of the best features. Realize there are a lot of us with zero interest in playing MLB games...it's not that fun as I have too many pre-conceived notions about the players.

JimG · 06-11-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Killing Time

Having players from Ghana was more important.

LOL!!! I will say that rainouts are one part of baseball Im glad arent simulated. But to each their own.

targy · 06-11-2006, 04:10 PM

Well I guess that you just really do not want a realistic baseball game. Rainouts are a part of life and adjusting to those rainouts is an important fuction of a manager. In a pennant race a rainout can kill a team unless the manager makes the proper decisions. So again have a function that turns eather off and on that way if you do not like weather making decisions on the way you play you just turn it off, as simple as that then for those of us that like the way weather and mother nature changes the game we can leave it on, fair enough

Killing Time · 06-11-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Herd Fan

Realize there are a lot of us with zero interest in playing MLB games...

It's good that there are a lot of you because IMO you people will end up being the sum of OOTP's future customer base as the real baseball crowd gets tired of being ignored in your favor and looks elsewhere. You're the target demographic for sure.

06-11-2006, 10:54 AM	#1
targy All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,152	Weather-Oh My Since when has wearher not played in important part of baseball. ppd becuase of rain, snow...etc This is a problem. This game strives to be realistic but has no weather factors. " Its a high drive to center field its going going, no wait the wind held it up and the Centerfielder makes a routine catch" Possible huh. " It's the 6th inning and the rain is really coming down, that's it the umpire calls for a rain delay. The rain delay lasts 50 minutes and the game resumes but the starting pitcher seems to have lost some of his stuff and the manager goes to the mound and calls for a relief pitcher." Possible huh. Nope not in this game and for those that feel that weather is just not an important change right now. Oh well. Markus bring back the weather, PLEASE!!!!!! I really want to start playing this game and I have been setting things up but I am waiting for a few things. 1. Weather 2. Someone who can has a stadium set with x&y coordinates, even if it is an excel file I will change them myself..3. I want some sort of STAR system for those of us that may not be good at finding potential and want an easier way to see how good players are. Yes this is a new game and no I will not give up on it OOTP, It has and always will be the best baseball game around and I have played since the first edition. Thanks Markus for all your hard work and I know in time all the bugs will be gone becuase that is the way you have always taken care of us __________________ www.emerge180.com Last edited by targy; 06-11-2006 at 10:56 AM.

06-11-2006, 01:17 PM	#3
targy All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,152	So you want a game that is as realistic as it gets but no weather factors. OK. I guess that the tropical storm that is heading to Florida or any other weather that effects how you have to change your starting lineup or may give that player with an injury an extra day off is not realistic, that makes alot of sense. That game that the Red Sox could not play becuase of rain would not exist in this game. You want it all but you really don't want it all. Explain further why? Give me a good argument that would convince me the reason why people do not want weather factors and I promise if it is a good reason I will listen and maybe change my mind. I do not know how but run a poll and if there is one give me the link. but I want reasons why. See I like to shuffle my lineups when a game gets postponed because of weather. And I want to hear from those who want weather. __________________ www.emerge180.com Last edited by targy; 06-11-2006 at 01:19 PM.

06-11-2006, 01:42 PM	#4
Mariner and Giants Fan All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Port Townsend, WA. Posts: 1,264	I am simply astonished.... That this (weather) was not included! This is akin to not including bunting, or park factors! How could this be? I could expect something like this from Baseball Mogul, or a novice entry into Baseball Simulations, but OOTP!? say it ain't so, Markus! __________________ Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"

06-11-2006, 02:14 PM	#7
targy All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,152	I wish I could tell you how but I wish there was a way that if you wanted the wether on you could toggle it on and off. But Markus I am sure can figure this one out. WE NEED WEATHER. The world is affected by weather. It affects not only baseball but everyday things...A world without weather, can you imagine 70 degree sunshinny days everywhere no more winter, spring, summer or fall just 70 degree weather all day and all night. Perfection, no more skiing or snowboarding. No more hurricanes or tornadoes. No more floods. No more Ice storms....WOW a perfect world and a real boring one. And I guess that pitchers just want to go into the game cold, That works. A managers dream never having to call down to the bullpen for a pitcher to warm up. Just go out to the mound and call a pitcher in to pitch. His arm would last 2 minutes and then it would blow out...Doctors could get rich performing so many Tommy John surgeries __________________ www.emerge180.com Last edited by targy; 06-11-2006 at 02:17 PM.

06-11-2006, 02:45 PM	#9
targy All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,152	I can't wait to send my scout to Ghana. By the way how many MLB players are from Ghana. We can start a trend. This world baseball stuff is just another time waster....That player from Ghana better be great for me to spend the clubs money on and the cost of the trip there. How much per diem does my coach get for hotels and meals...LOL __________________ www.emerge180.com

06-11-2006, 10:58 AM	#2
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	No weather factors, and the request has been loudly made.

06-11-2006, 02:07 PM	#5
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	I suggest you open cities.txt and figure out how to model weather globally. Report with any suggestions. I have made a suggestion on this and would gladly welcome more thoughts.

06-11-2006, 02:13 PM	#6
onthepunt Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 139	it is incredible how any baseball management/sim game can not include weather or bullpen warm ups

06-11-2006, 02:53 PM	#11
targy All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,152	The best thing is how long it takes you to set up a game. I found a great file at Files.Simcentral.net OOTP 2 for stadium dimensions and I go to Munsey and Suppes for updates to stadiums. it is a little old but you can update the excel file and add the newest stadiums. Check the mod section for an excel file that helps with ballpark factors...WE NEED WEATHER. I have not even started a game yet with all the bugs eveyone has found I am working on other things within the game till it gets better and WE GET WEATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ www.emerge180.com

06-11-2006, 03:05 PM	#14
targy All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,152	I guess if someone took the same time as it takes to try to play this game they would have found a way to adjust the climate for the world...Again I know Markus will figure things out he alwasy does __________________ www.emerge180.com

06-11-2006, 04:10 PM	#19
targy All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,152	Well I guess that you just really do not want a realistic baseball game. Rainouts are a part of life and adjusting to those rainouts is an important fuction of a manager. In a pennant race a rainout can kill a team unless the manager makes the proper decisions. So again have a function that turns eather off and on that way if you do not like weather making decisions on the way you play you just turn it off, as simple as that then for those of us that like the way weather and mother nature changes the game we can leave it on, fair enough __________________ www.emerge180.com