College baseball as a Sub League?

NomarHits400 · 05-19-2006, 10:12 AM

Forgive me if this has already been answered directly- but assuming one is setting up an MLB type universe (With all all minor league affiliations, etc.)- would it be spossible to accurately model college baseball as a sub-league- or several sub leagues (perhaps one for each conference)?

From what I have been reading- it wouldn't be too difficult to tailor the stat ouput as well as the talent level using the modifiers in the game...Or would it?

Finally, if any of the above is possible- is there any way to designate inside the game a way to make these players available in the draft- or is the best we can do free agency? This would be a huge addition (at least for me) if it's possible- thanks for any input!

Recte44 · 05-19-2006, 10:20 AM

Great question and I'm interested in this as an option as well.

cprongs2 · 05-19-2006, 11:03 AM

I'm very interested in knowing if this is possible too. With the new league set up this would be a nice feature. But, from what I've read, this looks doubtful unless it's done manually somehow.

andymac · 05-19-2006, 11:29 AM

There are a couple major problems with this. First of all, there is no way to adjust for the typical ages of college players or "force" those players out of the league after four years.

The second problem is that there is no way to move players from a league to the draft class of another league.

rudel.dietrich · 05-19-2006, 11:50 AM

If you wanted to forgo a bit of reality and put alot of hours into editing than it could be done.

kingcharlesxii · 05-19-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

If you wanted to forgo a bit of reality and put alot of hours into editing than it could be done.

Emphasis on lot.

You still couldn't add the players to the draft pool of another league as far as I can tell.

Zubes · 05-19-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kingcharlesxii

Emphasis on lot.

You still couldn't add the players to the draft pool of another league as far as I can tell.

you can, ive done it in OOTP6, but the manual man hours are a pain in the ass

MorseMoose · 05-19-2006, 12:25 PM

Could you make the pay next to nothing and set the FA years to 4? That way you have players WANTING to leave.

NomarHits400 · 05-19-2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

Could you make the pay next to nothing and set the FA years to 4? That way you have players WANTING to leave.

That sounds like a good idea- that might actually work- not quite s good as them entering the draft- but possible. I guess the biggest problem- as andymac pointed out- is how to make all the ages in the league 18-22 (or thereabouts)....Is there any workaround for this?

kingcharlesxii · 05-19-2006, 12:50 PM

Well if you make the pay really low anyone old enough to be FA eligible will want to leave. You'll have to edit the draft classes to all be 17-18, maybe a few older ones if you want JuCo transfers.

Like has been said you can probably get something working but it will be a lot of manual editing.

Russ · 05-19-2006, 01:13 PM

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ght=subleagues

Battists says you can only have 1 or 2 subleagues. Might hurt your plan.

andymac · 05-19-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ght=subleagues

Battists says you can only have 1 or 2 subleagues. Might hurt your plan.

You can have up to 50 divisions in one sub-league I believe, though. I don't think you would need to make each college conference its' own sub-league.

canadiancreed · 05-19-2006, 01:25 PM

so basically for something like this it'd be exactly like it was in OOTp6?

MorseMoose · 05-19-2006, 01:29 PM

I challenge the mod makers to develop a mod where you can create a draft class in different ways...

FA from another league
All players from another league
etc. etc.

spark240 · 05-20-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

You can have up to 50 divisions in one sub-league I believe, though. I don't think you would need to make each college conference its' own sub-league.

Okay, so we could have a league called "NCAA Division I Baseball," with 30 divisions/conferences. (How are those playoffs gonna work?)

I think I might try doing the college summer leagues instead. There's only 15 instead of 30, and their role IRL is more akin to what we're mostly interested in for OOTP, for "testing" prospects. And they use wood bats.

Ktulu · 05-20-2006, 10:06 PM

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Well if you make the pay really low anyone old enough to be FA eligible will want to leave. You'll have to edit the draft classes to all be 17-18, maybe a few older ones if you want JuCo transfers.

That's an interesting idea. It's really too bad that you can't use a league as a draft pool. If this idea works I think I might create an "amateur league" that would produce young free agents. It would probably take a lot of testing to get the talent pool right, but it would make a neat addition to the amateur draft

molarmite · 05-21-2006, 06:38 PM

Bump to the top, still interested.

Lidstrom · 05-27-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ktulu

That's an interesting idea. It's really too bad that you can't use a league as a draft pool. If this idea works I think I might create an "amateur league" that would produce young free agents.

I was just thinking about this and put in a search. I am glad somebody else was thinking about doing it. Rather than tying it into college specifically, I am just planning to make it a fictional national amateur baseball association (though it is college baseball that inspired the concept). I also intend to set free agency at 4 years and keep the money low so they will take offers from the other leagues as soon as they get a chance. Those who can will move into the major league structure, while others may find themselves in one of the few indy leagues I intend to have, and maybe others will travel to other nations to play. I don't care what their ages are, since I'm not holding onto the 'college idea' too tightly and merely want it to loosely represent what college baseball might be like in the game.

I will be most interested in how the college stuff works out for you guys.

boilermaker · 05-27-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

Could you make the pay next to nothing and set the FA years to 4? That way you have players WANTING to leave.

Sounds like the best way to do it. Make the college financials peanuts, etc.

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Originally Posted by Russ

Battists says you can only have 1 or 2 subleagues. Might hurt your plan.

Yeah, I think using hordes of divisions is the way to get around it. I guess there's nothing stopping anyone from making multiple NCAA leagues, either....

Cras · 05-27-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by spark240

Okay, so we could have a league called "NCAA Division I Baseball," with 30 divisions/conferences. (How are those playoffs gonna work?)

64 team single elimination madness!

05-19-2006, 10:12 AM	#1
NomarHits400 Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 347	College baseball as a Sub League? Forgive me if this has already been answered directly- but assuming one is setting up an MLB type universe (With all all minor league affiliations, etc.)- would it be spossible to accurately model college baseball as a sub-league- or several sub leagues (perhaps one for each conference)? From what I have been reading- it wouldn't be too difficult to tailor the stat ouput as well as the talent level using the modifiers in the game...Or would it? Finally, if any of the above is possible- is there any way to designate inside the game a way to make these players available in the draft- or is the best we can do free agency? This would be a huge addition (at least for me) if it's possible- thanks for any input!

05-19-2006, 10:20 AM	#2
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,818	Great question and I'm interested in this as an option as well. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

05-19-2006, 11:29 AM	#4
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	There are a couple major problems with this. First of all, there is no way to adjust for the typical ages of college players or "force" those players out of the league after four years. The second problem is that there is no way to move players from a league to the draft class of another league. __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac

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kingcharlesxii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,731	Well if you make the pay really low anyone old enough to be FA eligible will want to leave. You'll have to edit the draft classes to all be 17-18, maybe a few older ones if you want JuCo transfers. Like has been said you can probably get something working but it will be a lot of manual editing. __________________ Formerly in the OTBA - Stockholm Royal Squirrels of Sweden OOTP Grand League Champion 2015

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Russ All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex HON! Posts: 1,923 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ght=subleagues Battists says you can only have 1 or 2 subleagues. Might hurt your plan. __________________ If you don't love Russ, you don't love America. This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.

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cprongs2 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 69	I'm very interested in knowing if this is possible too. With the new league set up this would be a nice feature. But, from what I've read, this looks doubtful unless it's done manually somehow.

05-19-2006, 11:50 AM	#5
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	If you wanted to forgo a bit of reality and put alot of hours into editing than it could be done.

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MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Could you make the pay next to nothing and set the FA years to 4? That way you have players WANTING to leave.

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canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	so basically for something like this it'd be exactly like it was in OOTp6? __________________ PT21 PT22

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MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	I challenge the mod makers to develop a mod where you can create a draft class in different ways... FA from another league All players from another league etc. etc.

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molarmite Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,927	Bump to the top, still interested. __________________ From the wise mind of Davey Eckstein "Now all you need is a signature. A quote or initial, perhaps." [