Have any testers run a historical league?

Doughnuts? · 04-24-2006, 08:23 PM

And if so, how are the stats coming out, esp. for deadball? Thanks, amigos.

Jestre · 04-27-2006, 05:56 PM

I too would appreciate some feedback on Deadball Era, also any feedback on creating deadball fictional players.

Cras · 04-27-2006, 06:05 PM

Same here. I hope it won't be like 6.5 where everybody hits over .400

f.montoya · 04-27-2006, 07:02 PM

I've run tons of historical tests. Very satisfied so far. Deadball? How dead do you want it? You know Markus isn't going to leave this uncustomizable!! The season totals will be totally in your hands (to quote a recent slogan).

Cras · 04-27-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by f.montoya

How dead do you want it?

The problem with the old game was that you get ridiculously high batting averages which sky rockets the ERA. And I admit, I wasn't competitent (sp?) enough to mess with the values to get the right results. I would wind up sending HR's to high, or everyone would just hit singles, etc.

jm47048 · 04-27-2006, 08:36 PM

I don't know if I like deadball that much. Never could get into it I guess. What is everyone's draw?

Doughnuts? · 04-27-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by f.montoya

I've run tons of historical tests. Very satisfied so far. Deadball? How dead do you want it? You know Markus isn't going to leave this uncustomizable!! The season totals will be totally in your hands (to quote a recent slogan).

Can you elaborate? A little?

Doughnuts? · 04-27-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jm47048

I don't know if I like deadball that much. Never could get into it I guess. What is everyone's draw?

Well, if you do a historical "recreation", you want the eras to match historic patterns. Its also fun to do fictional deadball and transition out of it into the power era.

sfgiants88 · 04-27-2006, 08:50 PM

He basically means that you can tweak the totals to how you want them using league totals and league modifiers.

Doughnuts? · 04-27-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sfgiants88

He basically means that you can tweak the totals to how you want them.

You can do that now. Results are iffy.

battists · 04-27-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Doughnuts?

Can you elaborate? A little?

I think the blog I wrote on modifiers probably covers most of what he could elaborate on. (Do a search for posts with the word "tweak" in the title.)

If someone could post some info about a historical season, we could probably tell you how it came out. For example: what season would you like to see, and what are the key outputs you are hoping to see?

Like

1948
average should be around .260
blah blah blah

Sorry, I'm not a historical simmer by nature, so you have to do baby steps with me.

Cras · 04-27-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Doughnuts?

Well, if you do a historical "recreation", you want the eras to match historic patterns. Its also fun to do fictional deadball and transition out of it into the power era.

Exactly. It is different, and thus a different challenge. You want starters, no need for bullpen, and guys who hit for average, since RBIs are waaaay down than modern ball.

Jestre · 04-27-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jm47048

I don't know if I like deadball that much. Never could get into it I guess. What is everyone's draw?

Deadball Era actually calls for strategies other than sit back and wait for a homer. Hit and run, stolen bases, sac bunts all play a much larger role. Deadball baseball is more like playing chess while modern baseball is like pulling a one-armed bandit and waiting for the result.

Cras · 04-27-2006, 09:54 PM

jm47048, you should try it if you never have. It is a different game when a homerun is just a bonus and not a strategy.

Malleus Dei · 04-27-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by f.montoya

How dead do you want it?

So dead that not even a flatline appears.

So dead that you need three graves to bury it in.

So dead that a necromancer can't summon a spirit in it with a full ritual virgin sacrifice and an original copy of Abdul al Hazred's Al Azif that was written on human skin and has a full-strength elder djinn bound to it.

I'm talking *dead*.

f.montoya · 04-28-2006, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

So dead that not even a flatline appears.

So dead that you need three graves to bury it in.

So dead that a necromancer can't summon a spirit in it with a full ritual virgin sacrifice and an original copy of Abdul al Hazred's Al Azif that was written on human skin and has a full-strength elder djinn bound to it.

I'm talking *dead*.

That's pretty dead.

Le Grande Orange · 04-28-2006, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

So dead that not even a flatline appears.

So dead that you need three graves to bury it in.

So dead that a necromancer can't summon a spirit in it with a full ritual virgin sacrifice and an original copy of Abdul al Hazred's Al Azif that was written on human skin and has a full-strength elder djinn bound to it.

I'm talking *dead*.

It's not dead, it's pining for the fjords.

cdheer · 04-28-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

It's not dead, it's pining for the fjords.

Pining for the fjords? What kind of talk is that?

--chris

21C · 04-28-2006, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

It's not dead, it's pining for the fjords.

Lovely plumage.

Gorilla Shakespeare · 04-28-2006, 03:32 AM

The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.

04-24-2006, 08:23 PM	#1
Doughnuts? All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 704	Have any testers run a historical league? And if so, how are the stats coming out, esp. for deadball? Thanks, amigos.

04-27-2006, 05:56 PM	#2
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	I too would appreciate some feedback on Deadball Era, also any feedback on creating deadball fictional players. __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

04-27-2006, 06:05 PM	#3
Cras Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: LEO Posts: 3,789	Same here. I hope it won't be like 6.5 where everybody hits over .400 __________________ The Chicago White Sox 1906, 1917, 2005 World Series Champions 1900, 1901, 1906, 1917, 1919, 1959, 2005 American League Champions 2000, 2005, 2008 American League Central Division Champions 1983, 1993 American League West Division Champions OOTP \| Orbiter \| SSMS \| FSX \| LoL \| MLP:FIM!

04-27-2006, 07:02 PM	#4
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,077	I've run tons of historical tests. Very satisfied so far. Deadball? How dead do you want it? You know Markus isn't going to leave this uncustomizable!! The season totals will be totally in your hands (to quote a recent slogan). __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball League ex-Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) Ex-Web Host Current Mod Maker??

04-27-2006, 09:54 PM	#14
Cras Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: LEO Posts: 3,789	jm47048, you should try it if you never have. It is a different game when a homerun is just a bonus and not a strategy. __________________ The Chicago White Sox 1906, 1917, 2005 World Series Champions 1900, 1901, 1906, 1917, 1919, 1959, 2005 American League Champions 2000, 2005, 2008 American League Central Division Champions 1983, 1993 American League West Division Champions OOTP \| Orbiter \| SSMS \| FSX \| LoL \| MLP:FIM!

04-27-2006, 08:36 PM	#6
jm47048 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,247	I don't know if I like deadball that much. Never could get into it I guess. What is everyone's draw?

04-27-2006, 08:50 PM	#9
sfgiants88 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 885	He basically means that you can tweak the totals to how you want them using league totals and league modifiers.

04-28-2006, 03:32 AM	#20
Gorilla Shakespeare Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 405	The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.