Reduced roster issue

Kemp · 06-26-2005, 07:18 AM

I play with 19 man rosters. When I select this on the "Financial Setup" tab, the computer is fine with it and sets rosters to 19 active players. However, sometime after I start simming, it appears that all of the rosters expand to 25 players.

To test:
On the "Financial Setup" tab, change the active roster number to 19. Now go to any team and select "Transactions" from the dropdown menu and you'll see "Active Roster 19/19". Now sim a season and check the "Transactions" dropdown again and you'll notice that it now says "Active Roster 25/25".

Thanks.

exoromeo · 06-26-2005, 08:52 AM

Same here. I run my fict league with 22 player rosters. And the teams (all set to CPU controlled) seem to ignore this and stock them with 25 anyway.

Tiger Fan · 06-26-2005, 09:50 AM

Guys, I am trying to duplicate this problem. Can you give me a little more detail? Is it a new league or an imported league from OOTP6? Are financials turned on or off?

exoromeo · 06-26-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiger Fan

Guys, I am trying to duplicate this problem. Can you give me a little more detail? Is it a new league or an imported league from OOTP6? Are financials turned on or off?

Did it with both an imported and a newly created league.

I have Financials off. Sim Minors off. Coaches off. Not in Manager Mode.

Now, Im not sure that mine resets to 25 as soon as I start simming (watched it earlier and it didnt happen). But, once ya proceed to the next season, it does in fact jump back to 25 players per team (even though the setting remains, in my case, at 22 per team in League Setup).

Kemp · 06-26-2005, 11:07 AM

Custom league
Financials off
Coaches/Scouts on
Sim Minors Disabled
Roster size 19

I can't quite tell when the computer is overriding the setting but when I sim the entire season (stopping before the playoffs), the rosters are at 25.

Kemp · 06-26-2005, 11:14 AM

I was messing with this a little more and it looks like it's upping the roster to 25 before the post-season starts.

Then, after proceeding to the next season, the roster size REMAINS 25 for each team even though the roster size on the Financial Setup tab remains 19.

Tiger Fan · 06-26-2005, 01:07 PM

That is exactly what I am seeing. Postseason is where the problem occurs.

No problem staying at 19 man roster throughout the first season but the roster automatically bumps to 25 for all teams on the first day of the postseason and remains at 25 to start the next season even though in league setup I still have it set to 19.

I will make sure it is brought to Steve and Markus' attention.

Tiger Fan · 06-26-2005, 01:11 PM

Btw, a partial work around until the issue is corrected - at least for the regular season

Go into the financial setup menu and retype in the roster size number right after proceeding to next season. This will keep your roster at the proper limit until the next postseason.

Kemp · 06-26-2005, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiger Fan

Btw, a partial work around until the issue is corrected - at least for the regular season

Go into the financial setup menu and retype in the roster size number right after proceeding to next season. This will keep your roster at the proper limit until the next postseason.

I found this as well. The thing is, I don't think I can actually play a season if I'm going to get to the post-season and suddenly have my rosters go wacky. So I guess I'll just have to wait until it gets corrected.

Thanks!

Markmeister · 06-29-2005, 10:38 PM

I had notice this before with a pre-6.5 league that I briefly ran with 18-man rosters.

Unless it was changed with a later version, I don't believe the problem is with the post-season rosters. The expansion to 40-man rosters on September 1 is the actual problem. When proceeding to the post-season, OOTP would reduce each team's roster size to 25. But when I looked at the league settings, it would still say the maximum roster size was 18.

My guess is that there is an error in the resetting of the roster size for the post-season. Instead of reducing each teams roster from 40 to the maximum roster size, it is reducing to them 25.

Tiger Fan's solution is how I got OOTP to correct the roster sizes. Just retyped in the maximum roster size in league setting before starting each season.

*** Tiger Fan - does it work also if you try to reset the roster size before starting the postseason, or are you stuck with 25 for the post season? ***

There may be another work around that I have never tried, but thought about while typing this. What would happen if you altered the schedule so that the season ended before September 1st? If the rosters don't expand to 40, does OOTP skip the routine to reset the rosters back to 25? I won't have time to look at this until after the 4th, but if anyone wants to try this work around in the meantime feel free to try it.

Kemp · 06-30-2005, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markmeister

The expansion to 40-man rosters on September 1 is the actual problem.

My guess is that there is an error in the resetting of the roster size for the post-season. Instead of reducing each teams roster from 40 to the maximum roster size, it is reducing to them 25.

*** Tiger Fan - does it work also if you try to reset the roster size before starting the postseason, or are you stuck with 25 for the post season? ***

It is NOT an issue with expanding to 40 as my season ends in mid-August and my post season begins (and ends) before September 1. The issue is actually with the post season. As SOON as the regular season ends, OOTP expands the rosters to 25 regardless of the date.

Having said that, your post did lead me to try something (I'm mad at myself for not trying it before!) and it turns out that if you go to the Financial Setup tab before playing any post season games and retype the roster size to what you want (in my case, 19) OOTP WILL readjust the post season roster size to THAT number. So there is a workaround.

Thanks for your attention to this.

Markmeister · 06-30-2005, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kemp

It is NOT an issue with expanding to 40 as my season ends in mid-August and my post season begins (and ends) before September 1. The issue is actually with the post season. As SOON as the regular season ends, OOTP expands the rosters to 25 regardless of the date.

That answers my question regarding if ending the season before September 1 works. OOTP still resets the roster sizes to 25 when entering the post-season.

I would guess that it is a holdover from older versions of the program. 25-man rosters for the regular season, 40-man after September 1 and 25 for the post-season. When Marcus coded in the maximum roster amount, he changed the regular season limit but overlooked the post-season limit. He probably has a 25-man roster limit in the code somewhere instead of looking for the maximum roster size variable.

exoromeo · 07-01-2005, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kemp

It is NOT an issue with expanding to 40...

Not with mine either...as I turn off the 40 man roster expansion anyway.

Tiger Fan hit it above that it happens at post-season time..but retyping the number of players like he said above does work.

NCBeachBum · 07-04-2005, 10:39 PM

I can confirm that this has happened with every version of V6. I still don't have 6.5 and this happens yearly in my 19th century league.

06-26-2005, 07:18 AM	#1
Kemp All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,181	Reduced roster issue I play with 19 man rosters. When I select this on the "Financial Setup" tab, the computer is fine with it and sets rosters to 19 active players. However, sometime after I start simming, it appears that all of the rosters expand to 25 players. To test: On the "Financial Setup" tab, change the active roster number to 19. Now go to any team and select "Transactions" from the dropdown menu and you'll see "Active Roster 19/19". Now sim a season and check the "Transactions" dropdown again and you'll notice that it now says "Active Roster 25/25". Thanks. Last edited by Kemp; 06-26-2005 at 12:20 PM.

06-26-2005, 09:50 AM	#3
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	Guys, I am trying to duplicate this problem. Can you give me a little more detail? Is it a new league or an imported league from OOTP6? Are financials turned on or off? __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

06-26-2005, 01:07 PM	#7
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	That is exactly what I am seeing. Postseason is where the problem occurs. No problem staying at 19 man roster throughout the first season but the roster automatically bumps to 25 for all teams on the first day of the postseason and remains at 25 to start the next season even though in league setup I still have it set to 19. I will make sure it is brought to Steve and Markus' attention. __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

06-26-2005, 01:11 PM	#8
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	Btw, a partial work around until the issue is corrected - at least for the regular season Go into the financial setup menu and retype in the roster size number right after proceeding to next season. This will keep your roster at the proper limit until the next postseason. __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

06-29-2005, 10:38 PM	#10
Markmeister Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 463	I had notice this before with a pre-6.5 league that I briefly ran with 18-man rosters. Unless it was changed with a later version, I don't believe the problem is with the post-season rosters. The expansion to 40-man rosters on September 1 is the actual problem. When proceeding to the post-season, OOTP would reduce each team's roster size to 25. But when I looked at the league settings, it would still say the maximum roster size was 18. My guess is that there is an error in the resetting of the roster size for the post-season. Instead of reducing each teams roster from 40 to the maximum roster size, it is reducing to them 25. Tiger Fan's solution is how I got OOTP to correct the roster sizes. Just retyped in the maximum roster size in league setting before starting each season. * Tiger Fan - does it work also if you try to reset the roster size before starting the postseason, or are you stuck with 25 for the post season? * There may be another work around that I have never tried, but thought about while typing this. What would happen if you altered the schedule so that the season ended before September 1st? If the rosters don't expand to 40, does OOTP skip the routine to reset the rosters back to 25? I won't have time to look at this until after the 4th, but if anyone wants to try this work around in the meantime feel free to try it. __________________ It's not that baseball has ever had a shortage of ways to embarrass yourself -- dropping an easy flyball, being the one guy Heathcliff Slocumb actually struck out, realizing you're Bud Selig... Jersey style logos Vintage letter logos Vintage uniforms

06-26-2005, 08:52 AM	#2
exoromeo Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 60	Same here. I run my fict league with 22 player rosters. And the teams (all set to CPU controlled) seem to ignore this and stock them with 25 anyway.

06-26-2005, 11:07 AM	#5
Kemp All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,181	Custom league Financials off Coaches/Scouts on Sim Minors Disabled Roster size 19 I can't quite tell when the computer is overriding the setting but when I sim the entire season (stopping before the playoffs), the rosters are at 25.

06-26-2005, 11:14 AM	#6
Kemp All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,181	I was messing with this a little more and it looks like it's upping the roster to 25 before the post-season starts. Then, after proceeding to the next season, the roster size REMAINS 25 for each team even though the roster size on the Financial Setup tab remains 19.

07-04-2005, 10:39 PM	#14
NCBeachBum All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Topsail Island, NC, USA Posts: 1,049	I can confirm that this has happened with every version of V6. I still don't have 6.5 and this happens yearly in my 19th century league. __________________ And ain't that a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame, the way you do Oh, it's a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame on you