Set up man to closer

Aerosol · 06-22-2005, 11:30 AM

Hi all,

In my solo league I have an underperforming closer and a set up man who is doing a gret job. I want to switch them up because I think the set up guy's ratings make him better suited for the closer job anyhow. My question is will these two pitchers suffer some kind of built in disadvantage for switching roles? (I was pretty sure an SP suffers going to MR but these two roles are so similar I wasnt certain)

Mike Donlin · 06-22-2005, 11:44 AM

Quite the opposite. IIRC, Markus indicated somewhere that closers get a little boost in peformance. However, that boost comes with the role, not the pitcher. In other words, and contrary to what passes for logic in the MLB, some pitchers weren't born closers and others set up men; rather, they develop into whatever role they play.

In short: move him. Unless the closer has significantly better ratings and is just going through a rough patch; or, vice versa, the set up man has been especially lucky.

Brian · 06-22-2005, 11:59 AM

In my solo league I had the same situation. I move my SU man to closer and had great success posted an era below 2, was slightly above as a SU man. After I seen he could close I traded my high priced closer and free'd up salary. Give it a shot after a month or two you'll know if it was the right move.

spleen1015 · 06-22-2005, 12:03 PM

I switch MR roles around all of the time.

When going through an initial draft, I let everyone else draft the guys with the CL designation. I'll draft a MR later and make him my closer.

Aerosol · 06-22-2005, 12:10 PM

Sounds good, thanks guys

ELDoro · 06-22-2005, 12:34 PM

going with the billyball philosophy I never have my best relief pitcher as my closer so often the guy on my team that has the CL tag pitches in middle relief or setup.

x747aw · 06-22-2005, 12:47 PM

In my online league, I traded away my closer who had just gotten a big raise through arbitration and put one of my top setup men into the closer role. He went on to lead the national league in saves with 46 and had an ERA of 2.29. That certainly paid off.

Now I just need better supporting pitchers to get to him.

Vezna31 · 06-22-2005, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I switch MR roles around all of the time.

When going through an initial draft, I let everyone else draft the guys with the CL designation. I'll draft a MR later and make him my closer.

I do the same thing. I will give a guy a few weeks and if he performs, he stays. If not, someone else gets a shot.

06-22-2005, 11:30 AM	#1
Aerosol Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 80	Set up man to closer Hi all, In my solo league I have an underperforming closer and a set up man who is doing a gret job. I want to switch them up because I think the set up guy's ratings make him better suited for the closer job anyhow. My question is will these two pitchers suffer some kind of built in disadvantage for switching roles? (I was pretty sure an SP suffers going to MR but these two roles are so similar I wasnt certain)

06-22-2005, 11:59 AM	#3
Brian Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 103	In my solo league I had the same situation. I move my SU man to closer and had great success posted an era below 2, was slightly above as a SU man. After I seen he could close I traded my high priced closer and free'd up salary. Give it a shot after a month or two you'll know if it was the right move. __________________ MLML Dodgers LOHO Dodgers

06-22-2005, 12:34 PM	#6
ELDoro All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 535	going with the billyball philosophy I never have my best relief pitcher as my closer so often the guy on my team that has the CL tag pitches in middle relief or setup. __________________ MLNB Commish: https://statsplus.net/mlnb/

06-22-2005, 11:44 AM	#2
Mike Donlin All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Life, friends, is boring. Posts: 840	Quite the opposite. IIRC, Markus indicated somewhere that closers get a little boost in peformance. However, that boost comes with the role, not the pitcher. In other words, and contrary to what passes for logic in the MLB, some pitchers weren't born closers and others set up men; rather, they develop into whatever role they play. In short: move him. Unless the closer has significantly better ratings and is just going through a rough patch; or, vice versa, the set up man has been especially lucky.

06-22-2005, 12:03 PM	#4
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,005	I switch MR roles around all of the time. When going through an initial draft, I let everyone else draft the guys with the CL designation. I'll draft a MR later and make him my closer.

06-22-2005, 12:10 PM	#5
Aerosol Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 80	Sounds good, thanks guys

06-22-2005, 12:47 PM	#7
x747aw Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 40	In my online league, I traded away my closer who had just gotten a big raise through arbitration and put one of my top setup men into the closer role. He went on to lead the national league in saves with 46 and had an ERA of 2.29. That certainly paid off. Now I just need better supporting pitchers to get to him.