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Originally Posted by NotMuchTime
That said, we all may have different opinions on what 'stuff' means.
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Yes. And it's prevalent throughout baseball. At one point I spent a half day or so reading baseball people talking about what "stuff" meant. When you do that, you'll find that stuff is a nebulous term in common use, and a lot of really smart baseball people use it in different ways. Same, really, for command, which we sometimes use interchangeably with control but is not actually the same thing. A lot of guys without very good command can avoid walking guys by just getting it over the plate and "pitching to contact."
At best, "stuff" seems to be a result of some combination of pitches and their qualities that makes them hard to succeed against.
We can get our knickers wadded up, though, because OOTP uses pitching language in ways that are imprecise, and therefore sometimes "wrong" ... whatever that is.
Bottom line: no matter how great the model is made, there will always be a point where the game player will need to squint and say "hey, it's baseball," or whatever meta thing you find workable. Like you said: computer game.