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VanillaGorilla · 11-23-2012, 05:14 AM

With only 18 seasons to go until we reach the Class of 2012, there are now, with the entry of May and Atkinson, 171 members in the Hall of Fame. The numbers have stablized for the entry standards. The current averages are :

Black Ink: 1.1
Gray Ink: 1.2
HOFm: 1.6
HOFs: 0.9

Since the last time I commented on this and was without an explanation as to exactly why the HOFm was so far above the expected 1.0, I realized looking at BBREF that 100 is not the average for RL HOFm scores, but 100 is described as a threshold for becoming a favorite to enter. These are two very different things and the actual RL ave is above 100. Once the 2012 class is entered I will compare these Hall numbers to the real ones in the same manner that the numbers are used here.

I don't anticipate any of these numbers changing by more than a tenth of a point before 2012. But I have been really wrong about such things, before.

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Carlos May was the 4th player taken in the 1963 draft. As a 19 year-old rookie he hit .338 with 37 HR, 100 RBI and scored 111 runs as he won the ROY with a npa OPS+ of 188 for the Boston Red Sox.

Things got better for May in 1964 when he won the league MVP. An honor he received again in 1965. Over those two seasons he hit a combined .343 with 72 HRs, 215 RBI and scored 245 runs with a npa OPS+ of 195.

For his career he collected 2883 hits which included 288 HRs. His slash line of 300/385/448 was good for a npa OPS+ of 140.

The 5 time All Star hit .360 in two post seasons. He won a WS in 1972 with the Red Sox as he was teamed with HOFer Bobby Murcer.

May enters the Hall by virtue of his HOFs number being above the Hall average. He retired following the 1984 season.

Black Ink: 17
Gray Ink: 130
HOFm: 111.5
HOFs: 54

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Al Atkinson was the 8th player taken in the 1972 draft. He didn't sign with the Pirates, and was drafted with the 4th overall pick in 1973 by the Expos. He played his entire career with Montreal and retired in 1988. He enters on the in his first year of eligibility on the First Ballot screening.

Atkinson posted a career record of 238-166 and had an OOTP ERA of 2.99 for a npa ERA+ of 130.

He won consecutive Cy Young Awards in 1981 and 1982. Those seasons he was a combined 45-10 with a npa ERA+ of 166.

He led the league in Wins each season from 1980-1982. In 1983 he posted an OOTP ERA of 1.93 while winning 19 games. His npa ERA+ of 202 was a career high.

When the Expos won the WS in 1981, Atkinson won 3 WS games and was 5-0 for the post season. His career post season record is 9-2.

Atkinson joins long time team mate, and 1981 WS winner, Barry Larkin in the Hall.

Black: 59
Gray: 210
HOFm: 173
HOFs: 47

ADD: RL HOFer Eppa Rixey makes his debut in 1994.

11-23-2012, 05:14 AM	#94
VanillaGorilla All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,371 Blog Entries: 2	Class of 1994: May, Atkinson With only 18 seasons to go until we reach the Class of 2012, there are now, with the entry of May and Atkinson, 171 members in the Hall of Fame. The numbers have stablized for the entry standards. The current averages are : Black Ink: 1.1 Gray Ink: 1.2 HOFm: 1.6 HOFs: 0.9 Since the last time I commented on this and was without an explanation as to exactly why the HOFm was so far above the expected 1.0, I realized looking at BBREF that 100 is not the average for RL HOFm scores, but 100 is described as a threshold for becoming a favorite to enter. These are two very different things and the actual RL ave is above 100. Once the 2012 class is entered I will compare these Hall numbers to the real ones in the same manner that the numbers are used here. I don't anticipate any of these numbers changing by more than a tenth of a point before 2012. But I have been really wrong about such things, before. ---------------- Carlos May was the 4th player taken in the 1963 draft. As a 19 year-old rookie he hit .338 with 37 HR, 100 RBI and scored 111 runs as he won the ROY with a npa OPS+ of 188 for the Boston Red Sox. Things got better for May in 1964 when he won the league MVP. An honor he received again in 1965. Over those two seasons he hit a combined .343 with 72 HRs, 215 RBI and scored 245 runs with a npa OPS+ of 195. For his career he collected 2883 hits which included 288 HRs. His slash line of 300/385/448 was good for a npa OPS+ of 140. The 5 time All Star hit .360 in two post seasons. He won a WS in 1972 with the Red Sox as he was teamed with HOFer Bobby Murcer. May enters the Hall by virtue of his HOFs number being above the Hall average. He retired following the 1984 season. Black Ink: 17 Gray Ink: 130 HOFm: 111.5 HOFs: 54 ------------------------------- Al Atkinson was the 8th player taken in the 1972 draft. He didn't sign with the Pirates, and was drafted with the 4th overall pick in 1973 by the Expos. He played his entire career with Montreal and retired in 1988. He enters on the in his first year of eligibility on the First Ballot screening. Atkinson posted a career record of 238-166 and had an OOTP ERA of 2.99 for a npa ERA+ of 130. He won consecutive Cy Young Awards in 1981 and 1982. Those seasons he was a combined 45-10 with a npa ERA+ of 166. He led the league in Wins each season from 1980-1982. In 1983 he posted an OOTP ERA of 1.93 while winning 19 games. His npa ERA+ of 202 was a career high. When the Expos won the WS in 1981, Atkinson won 3 WS games and was 5-0 for the post season. His career post season record is 9-2. Atkinson joins long time team mate, and 1981 WS winner, Barry Larkin in the Hall. Black: 59 Gray: 210 HOFm: 173 HOFs: 47 ADD: RL HOFer Eppa Rixey makes his debut in 1994. Last edited by VanillaGorilla; 11-23-2012 at 05:16 AM.